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You might get the Felucca uptake up to like 7% or something, but basically the playerbase has been trained for decades to never go to Felucca for any reason. Nobody is interested in dealing with thieves, much less whatever novel grief tactics, bugs, or loopholes inevitably crop up.
Thanks for soliciting feedback.
I typically only play in Tram but have used this event as an opportunity to play more in Fel and get away from the congestion on ATL. I really, really like that you included Fel in this event.
Personally, my biggest hang ups with going to Fel have nothing to do with this event in particular and more to do my own skill gap relative to those who PVP more often. I’m aware that many, many players run scripts as well. That said, I’ve gotten over it pretty quickly. I insure everything, and if I die who cares? It’s been a bit fun to practice for me.
Some thoughts:
Because the spawn scales with population, there’s a circular benefit: you go where more people because it means higher spawn.
There are many bots. People don’t want their bots to be killed so they plant them in Tram.
Guards would be interesting but it would obviously not be insta-whacking, and it wouldn’t swing me one way or the other. Personally I think the main driver would need to be a sizable boon to the drop rate when in Fel.
Since the changes to corpses, I haven’t noticed too much lag myself. I wonder if folks are using the web client, which will perform worse. I’ve mostly been on EC.
Also, I would like to add that I respectfully disagree with the insistence on another Winter Spur. Cramming players into a bot ridden area was not that compelling, even if I did make out with a lot of artifacts.
Yup I have been told that the Guards do work in Fel, but I don't have a need to get more spawn.
Its probably good to do the hidden chests there since the spawn is lower.
Use a bag of sending if you get something good.
The mob spawn rate is too low, the actual surprising, and good thing is, even though the spawn rate is low, the drops keep on coming. I have got a great drop rate from Felucca. I have got to the point, I hide spare accounts in the town, and ask guildmates to also put characters in the town, and we have quite a lot of guildies going there, just to try and push the spawn rate up. ( I don;t know how your formula works, but I am trying to beat it
In the end, we often go back to Trammel, just because the spawn rate is higher, and its faster/easier to play.
The lack of summons is an issue.
But also, the lack of consistency with guard-zones, and knowing where the lines are, is hampering actual pvp itself. For example, the guard-zone requirement is removed in the Invasion itself, but there are Invasion specific zones, and unusual guard-zones operate around them. I have been guard-whacked quite a lot, as I try and kill naughty blues.
I cannot speak for Trammel players, as I am already in Fel 50% of the time. I can only notice what is not working for us as it is now.
My opinion is - for Blues, Felucca is already very easy to play in.
I'm playing on Orange, and having to pvp my way through.
Blues really do have the option of close-by Guard-zones already. But they would not know this.
Maybe if you gave them specific safe-zones, that were well documented.
I remember right at the start of the game, Felucca only, and I was a newbie, I lived on Vesper beach by the bridge, with the Inn there. Reds would hang around outside the town, and we would jump out, attack them, and run back, cat and mouse, it was a lot of fun. But that is how newbies were protected.
The bag of sending is the easiest stuff to be stolen. Just use insurance if you get something good! (and I have not seen a thief in my shard since 2000, but still)
That is because you are a naughty red! if you were playing anti-PK then you wouldnt get guard whacked!
But, I go there for Butchers and Pumpkins this time of year. Since I'm on a mage running protection, I just recall away as needed.
Another trick. Do vendor search get a deed to a random house. Go there. Go to the place in Fel you want to play. Have that screen open on the deed. Hit return to vendor if needed. I don't think that will fizzle. Someone can verify.
I do it when I shop in fel and someone is there trying to steal or kill.
This event isn t design for fel pvp at all. character build for this kind of event is purely pvm build if you want to succes. The only way if you want to lure people to fel you need to bump the spawn but at least 3x to make it worth it. Then you will have some red who like to grief pvmer in pvp suit and they will have action ( i dont call it pvp ). You should know recent years tot event was held 2 times in a dungeon with fel side with a champion spawn deceit and fire dungeon. those 2 events had very funny pvp guild to try to maintain the top spot to farm drops in the champion spawn zone. This town invasion tot is a bad location for any action glitched spawn everywhere ( on roof under ground ) lack of spawn in many cities. I dont understand why you did this in town when you know how many players will eb there we need way much larger area for this kind of event. We have several pvm spot around sosaria why dont you go somewhere already made for pvm content. last year tokuno land was very nice and whitout event like this tokuno is 99% dead like ilshenar.
Are you under the impression that there will come a point where you being bootyburned about a whopping 18k/hour won't be really, really funny?
We have to enjoy the devs giving us easy content with nice rewards. Everyone can get drops.
First event a certain fatherly figure has not posted to complain about something.
1.) Take more measures to reduce the lag
2.) INCREASE SPAWN! Raise the base spawn and uncap the top end of the spawn. Make it continuously ramp up more and more with more players in an area.
If #2 causes more #1 then the only option is to open another area where #2 doesn't affect #1 as much, perhaps a non-Trammel subserver that doesn't span across several cities with thousands of houses. Once again, if you're unaware, the large hasahed lines I believe are server lines.
Gee, wonder why some of these cities lag? 1000's of houses with 1000's of items inside spanning across several cities plus everything else going on.
Also no one is going doing Fel. We learned this over 20 years ago my dude. Catch up.
I will be slow to reply because I cannot log in/stay logged in to the forums.
Make this your signature if you are tired of Vendor Search being broken, over 4 years and counting.
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Then maybe stop pretending to be deeply concerned that sampires who bother to 120 their weapon skills aren't dying at this event.
Trust me u don't want to go on fel to PvP their bots train.. this is disgusting.. PvB ain't no PvP..
We need a studio that would to announce a war on third party and do something about it.. instead we got BS.. they declare war on them meanwhile the other hand is sponsoring their way of life.
At some point stop blaming PvPers.. start blaming third engine users running a paragon speed on their red or running a bots train for "PvP"
I'd agree on one thing tho.. balance is out of control
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If u want people to go on felluca.. just go in game and ban them cheat engine user running at paragon speed and let US help you to work on a solid balance.. You just solve Felucca problem.
Back then even trammies would enjoy doing a champ spawn from time to time (I did plenty of them; protecting them on LS)..
Today you have a solo guy doing multi-bots, crying cuz he get PvPed on a champ spawn region and asking for pure PvE 120 PS.. if this is not a wake up call..
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Yeah, I'd give it a try at least. The lag and slow spawn in some areas make it difficult to get the usual value of of my fortune potion time as it is now. As others have mentioned, I do think splitting population for the invasion into multiple cities at a time on different subservers might be a better option overall though if that's possible.
i haven’t ran into much of any issues when doing the trammel side.
by the way, the rewards are great, and the ritual totems were a nice touch. Love the graphic when double clicked.
I've been playing UO off and on since Dec '97. The only good PvP was back when there was no Fel, and people had normalized builds and mostly normalized crafted/vendor bot gear aka - the best thing you might have was a dropped force/vanq weapon. Also reds were punished for what they do - player killing. Today Fel is just full of people who script and grief other players without the punishment of '97.
Over the last 27 years the dev team has focused on trying to incentivize people to play in Fel, through better luck/item drops, more resources, etc etc. It is clear to everyone based on your report of 5% of the players playing in Fel that no amount of incentives is going to get people to want to play with what amounts to the cesspool of the player base, cheaters, scripters, and bot trains.
I see a lot of veteran names around here saying the play in Fel. I also suspect many of them are retired, and play UO a lot more than your average working player. People want to come home, log into a game they love and enjoy, and relax while feeling they've accomplished something.
Being grieved/dealing with PvP scripters/botters who trash talk and make your life miserable is NOT relaxing or enjoyable. No one wants that in their ~2 hour play window.
personally I hate the era u talk, game was made for griefer.. u couldn't get access to any good content without a zerg. from the birth of trammel till ~2007, PvP was at it's best (6month grind ~20h/week max to optimize for end game)
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That's beside the point though. The people who don't have unlimited time to play don't want their time filled with corpse recoveries and being harassed by 50 year olds acting like 13 year old Fortnite players in Fel. I was amused, and a little disappointed that the PvP trash talking in UO hasn't evolved or changed much in the last 27 years, other than the people doing it now probably being 40-60 years old. I can now sit anywhere in game and listen to the PvPers trash talk in Europa. Its at least an bi nightly occurrence.
Also, I had access to "good content" back in '97. My guild on Lake Superior was anti-PK, and we'd go back and forth on fighting over dungeon locations for farming, or setting ambushes for reds, or responding to someone's call for help against reds. The difference between '97 and now is that there is a LOT more content, and much better drops/crafted/event items. My best item in '97 was a vanq heavy xbow. Most of my gear was store bought because I knew I could lose it at any moment, and I didn't care so was much more willing to engage in PvP. I was also in high school, so I had way more time to play.
The biggest issue I have with "PvP" in today UO, is that its not actually PvP most of the time. Its Player Killing, and the punishments aren't harsh enough in my opinion. As an example, Blues who res Reds should go red for 40 in game hours. Red hours should also not expire while sitting in the safety of your house. You should have to be out and active.
The system is and always has been designed for trashy people to PK others under the guise of PvP. At least in '97, in my opinion, it was a little more palatable.