Please enable the spawn in Tokuno ice area permanently or add another town!

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  • PsycoderTooPsycoderToo Posts: 63
    edited November 25
    KroDuK said:
    this... this... I was like how obnoxious u came in to say i'm swimming in artifact on Europa and I sympathize.. but this.. c'mon now. You are impossible.. that ego must be made out of glass.


    @ PsycoderToo he's doesn't want the shard bound limitation to be lifted.. since it would be the simplier fix to ATL problem right now.. just a thought.

    I'm not even asking for the removal of shard bound in this thread. I just believe adding another city and increasing the spawn size would solve the problem at Atlantic without negatively impacting other shards.

    Yet people are against this because "Atlantic problem is not our problem" or "Atlantic should suffer as long as we are doing ok"

    If that's not some kind of lame elitism then I don't know what is...
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,558
    KroDuK said:
    Cookie said:
    Also, we have characters on Atlantic, we cross shard there a lot as merchants, and our characters there are also getting drops and rewards without too many problems.
    this... this... I was like how obnoxious u came in to say i'm swimming in artifact on Europa and I sympathize.. but this.. c'mon now. You are impossible.. that ego must be made out of glass.


    @ PsycoderToo he's doesn't want the shard bound limitation to be lifted.. since it would be the simplier fix to ATL problem right now.. just a thought.
    Guys - for me, it is as simple as this, it is not about ego or anything.

    I see you all here complaining non-stop.

    I see myself, and everyone else just playing the game, and doing really well.

    There is a disconnect. 

    At some point, you guys have to realise it is you.

    I built a 5 day old warrior, and once he got 35 drops for the conjurers trinket, and a whirlwind weapon he was away. If you are finding it hard, I have absolutely no idea why?
  • PsycoderTooPsycoderToo Posts: 63
    edited November 25
    Cookie said:
    At some point, you guys have to realise it is you.

    But it is not just me... It is my guild of 30+ people, 20+ other people on this forum, and the whole Atlantic global chat... You are delusional to think it is just "me".

    There are times during peak hours where you can't even take a step.

    Also, you have yet to explain how adding another location and increasing the spawn effects you in a negative manner.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,558
    KroDuK said:
    Cookie said:
    Also, we have characters on Atlantic, we cross shard there a lot as merchants, and our characters there are also getting drops and rewards without too many problems.

    @ PsycoderToo he's doesn't want the shard bound limitation to be lifted.. since it would be the simplier fix to ATL problem right now.. just a thought.
    I have always wanted shard bound lifted.
    I was always against shard bound - I put forward many logical arguments, and got beaten down by a load of players who don't have a clue, much like yourself.

    I've given up trying on that argument, at some point, I've said my bit, there is no point carrying on.
    That is how I feel about you, and a lot of your points.

    To give the Devs some credit, they did take on board the fact that shard bound gave a massive block on event items and stuff, and have massively increased the potential to acquire them, so shards cannot run out. So whilst they did not lift shard-bound, or do what I would have liked them to do, they eased the pressure up a lot.
  • PsycoderTooPsycoderToo Posts: 63
    edited November 25
    Cookie said:
    They eased the pressure up a lot.

    Dude, you and my whole guild are living in different realities... During the prime time my whole guild was complaining about the lag and the spawn amount non-stop.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,558
    Cookie said:
    At some point, you guys have to realise it is you.

    There are times during peak hours where you can't even take a step.

    Also, you have yet to explain how adding another location and increasing the spawn effects you in a negative manner.
    The peak time bit I get, and sympathise.

    The 2nd bit - I think the event is too easy already. It does not need to be made easier. But sure, if it helps, if the Devs think it is a good idea.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,558
    It was my bad guys... You all are right... The event is spectacular... There is and there have never been anything wrong with any event in the history of UO. My whole guild and I are liars...
    Not said you are liars.

    I have said the solution is in your hands.
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  • marcmarc Posts: 15
    What kind of solution exists for server side lag?
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,558
    marc said:
    What kind of solution exists for server side lag?
    It is well known millions of players moved to Atlantic because it was supposedly better.

    Those players have made their own problems.

    They were all fine to move that way, over-crowded the server, having lots of issues.

    It does not take much to see the players themselves could spread back out, balance the servers out, and increase their playability.

    They created their problems, they can fix it.
  • marcmarc Posts: 15
    Cookie said:
    marc said:
    What kind of solution exists for server side lag?
    It is well known millions of players moved to Atlantic because it was supposedly better.

    Those players have made their own problems.

    They were all fine to move that way, over-crowded the server, having lots of issues.

    It does not take much to see the players themselves could spread back out, balance the servers out, and increase their playability.

    They created their problems, they can fix it.
    So the solution to the lag at Atlantic is to not play at Atlantic. What a marvelous idea.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,558
    edited November 25
    Cookie said:
    marc said:
    What kind of solution exists for server side lag?
    It is well known millions of players moved to Atlantic because it was supposedly better.

    Those players have made their own problems.

    They were all fine to move that way, over-crowded the server, having lots of issues.

    It does not take much to see the players themselves could spread back out, balance the servers out, and increase their playability.

    They created their problems, they can fix it.

    Let me get this straight... 

    First you say that you are here because you dont want the solution for Atlantic problem to affect your shard. When I ask you how a solution would negatively affect your shard, you change the topic.

    Then you say the solution is in our hands. When we ask you what is the solution, you change the topic and say we created the problem by choosing a specific shard 25 YEARS AGO based on our ping.

    You sir.... You are a hypocrite and a trash.
    I've never said anything about negatively affecting my shard, you've assumed that all yourself - don't put words into other people's mouths, and they may make sense to you.

    I said I was here, because the thread initially assumed all shards, I have no issues with what they do on Atlantic. I've even said I play there, and can sympathise a bit. But the thread is incorrect, for the majority of the playerbase, on the 24 other shards. Atlantic is a drop in the ocean, it is not all about you guys.

    But then I have also said.

    I remember, when there was a mass player migration to Atlantic.

    It is not a case of everyone started there 25 years ago, players mass migrated off other servers to be on Atlantic. I remember when half of Europa's pvpers went to Atlantic. I remember when Europa merchants went to Atlantic. Many players are playing on Atlantic with worse ping. They've made a choice, clearly a bad one.

    They went there, quoting "it is better". It is in fact worse in some aspects.
    Those players, created their own problems, they can fix it.

  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,558
    edited November 25
    Cookie said:
    I've never said anything about negatively affecting my shard, you've assumed that all yourself - don't put words into other people's mouths, and they may make sense to you.

    I said I was here, because the thread initially assumed all shards, I have no issues with what they do on Atlantic. I've even said I play there, and can sympathise a bit. But the thread is incorrect, for the majority of the playerbase, on the 24 other shards. Atlantic is a drop in the ocean, it is not all about you guys.

    But then I have also said.

    I remember, when there was a mass player migration to Atlantic.

    It is not a case of everyone started there 25 years ago, players mass migrated off other servers to be on Atlantic. I remember when half of Europa's pvpers went to Atlantic. I remember when Europa merchants went to Atlantic. Many players are playing on Atlantic with worse ping. They've made a choice, clearly a bad one.

    They went there, quoting "it is better". It is in fact worse in some aspects.
    Those players, created their own problems, they can fix it.


    I don't give a single shit what Europetards did... I started playing on Atlantic because I had the best ping there 25 years ago.

    Now, this thread is about possible solutions to problems happening to me and everyone I know. If you don't  have anything to contribute then f**k off.
    It was all the American shards as well, not just Europa.

    Show me your intelligence, list all the US based shards that exist.

    And honestly, you do not talk like a vet. Vets bring solutions, not problems. :)


  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,558
    edited November 25
    Cookie said:
    It was all the American shards as well, not just Europa.

    Show me your intelligence, list all the US based shards that exist.

    And honestly, you do not talk like a vet. Vets bring solutions, not problems. :)



    **** which solution did you bring since I started this thread??? I listed at least 5 solutions on this forum. All you say is "Europa is fine so no solution needed".
    I've said the playerbase can spread out across the servers.
    There is one obviously over-crowded server that is lagged out, and no amount of help can probably help it.
    There are 24 servers that are working fine.
    It does not take a genius to see the solution?
    Especially for all those players that migrated from another server, to put themselves in that mess.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,558
    edited November 25
    Cookie said:
    I've said the playerbase can spread out across the servers.

    Ok ******, you win. I will move to Europa... Now give me all of my shard bound items from Atlantic on Europa...

    Ohhh, wait a minute. you also asked for shard bound items... And you won't give me shit... At this point you are either a *****, or you are just trolling...
    I've specifically said I never supported Shard bound items.

    I argued against shard bound items for a long time.

    I believe they harmed trade, and harmed pvpers, and veterans who liked to move between servers.

    People need to understand, Atlantic is good for trading, that is it.
    It is not good to play on, because all the content is maxed out, you cannot actually do anything.
    And here you are, complaining about maxed out content, as always, the same as all the rest, who made their decisions.
    I feel sorry for you, if you are a genuine Atlantic vet from 25 years ago, but again, you have a choice.

  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,558
    edited November 25
    Cookie said:
    I've specifically said I never supported Shard bound items.

    I argued against shard bound items for a long time.

    I believe they harmed trade, and harmed pvpers, and veterans who liked to move between servers.

    People need to understand, Atlantic is good for trading, that is it.
    It is not good to play on, because all the content is maxed out, you cannot actually do anything.
    And here you are, complaining about maxed out content, as always, the same as all the rest, who made their decisions.
    I feel sorry for you, if you are a genuine Atlantic vet from 25 years ago, but again, you have a choice.


    ****** will you give me my relics if I move to Europa? The answer is either yes or you shut the fuck up and get the fuck out of this thread.
    You have almost 3 months to get your relics, you will do it easily on Europa :)

    Hint - like we always said to Popps, if you stay off the forums, and actually play, you will find the game much easier :)
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,558
    edited November 25

    Cookie said:
    That is such a disappointment. :D

    It was the other way around for your mom. She told me she never had so much fun.
    Doing YourMom jokes puts you around age 16, meaning you can't be a 25 year old vet. ;)

    And your dad isn't going to be happy when he finds out you've been on half his accounts, and got 3 of them banned off the forums. :D


  • Cookie said:
    Doing YourMom jokes puts you around age 16, meaning you can't be a 25 year old vet. ;)

    And who says that? The worlds expert on your mom jokes, you? The only thing you ever did with your mom jokes was thinking we were joking... When in fact we were not.
  • KyronixKyronix Posts: 1,190Dev
    Thank you everyone for the feedback.  I would ask you all keep it civil.

    Incidentally the event is live in 2 towns during every invasion.  Less than 5% of the population (on average) will play the Felucca side.  

    We will continue to monitor and make adjustments as we can.  Thanks and happy hunting!
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,558
    edited November 25

    And who says that? The worlds expert on your mom jokes, you? The only thing you ever did with your mom jokes was thinking we were joking... When in fact we were not.

    So, to recap.

    You are a 25 year Atlantic vet.
    You have 20+ accounts.
    You are happy to spend $2-3k on cosmetic items per month.
    You own a business, and can get your employee's to code bots for you, or you could set up bots in 2 days yourself.
    You are my dad?!

    Am I missing anything ? :)
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,558
    Kyronix said:
    Thank you everyone for the feedback.  I would ask you all keep it civil.

    Incidentally the event is live in 2 towns during every invasion.  Less than 5% of the population (on average) will play the Felucca side.  

    We will continue to monitor and make adjustments as we can.  Thanks and happy hunting!


    Good morning, I hope you are well !! :D
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,051
    Cookie said:
    So, to recap.

    You are a 25 year old Atlantic vet.
    You have 20+ accounts.
    You are happy to spend $2-3k on cosmetic items per month.
    You own a business, and can get your employee's to code bots for you.
    You are my dad?!

    Am I missing anything ? :)
    That's the same thing Shootgun said.  What a coincidence that 2 people fit that description. 
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • usernameusername Posts: 859
    Kyronix said:
    Thank you everyone for the feedback.  I would ask you all keep it civil.

    Incidentally the event is live in 2 towns during every invasion.  Less than 5% of the population (on average) will play the Felucca side.  

    We will continue to monitor and make adjustments as we can.  Thanks and happy hunting!
     :'(  I hope you are planning adjustments. Lag was awful last night and the spawn wasn't enough.

    Sounds like you should delete the fel spawn and move it elsewhere. Might I suggest... WINTER SPUR?
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  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,284
    I don't believe it's a 95-5 % player base split I think maybe 65-35 Atlantic too many multiple account and bots etc make it seem busier 
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,284
    username said:
    Kyronix said:
    Thank you everyone for the feedback.  I would ask you all keep it civil.

    Incidentally the event is live in 2 towns during every invasion.  Less than 5% of the population (on average) will play the Felucca side.  

    We will continue to monitor and make adjustments as we can.  Thanks and happy hunting!
     :'(  I hope you are planning adjustments. Lag was awful last night and the spawn wasn't enough.

    Sounds like you should delete the fel spawn and move it elsewhere. Might I suggest... WINTER SPUR?
    Go to fel !
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,051
    @KroDuK have you noticed this dude is now up to 4 accounts in this thread.  He also had iterations as shootgun.

    Makes you wonder why he wants winterspur open. 

    Kyronix says the Fel city only has 5% of the population at a given time. 

    You would think his train that his employees programed for him could play in Fel.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • Kyronix said:
    Incidentally the event is live in 2 towns during every invasion.  Less than 5% of the population (on average) will play the Felucca side.

    Which is entirely predictable and will never ever change, so I'm not sure why it's worth bringing up. In any case yeah, on Atlantic this event is all about slowly yet frantically running around in dialup-level lag trying to get a hit on a bunch of crap in the split-second window before someone else gets it.

    More spawn, harder spawn, two cities, something, anything. It's so boring I'm mostly not bothering. I don't need to run my UO gold up higher badly enough to do this when there are other video games to play that are fun.
  • RhelRhel Posts: 29
    Kyronix said:
    Thank you everyone for the feedback.  I would ask you all keep it civil.

    Incidentally the event is live in 2 towns during every invasion.  Less than 5% of the population (on average) will play the Felucca side.  

    We will continue to monitor and make adjustments as we can.  Thanks and happy hunting!
    So, 5% of the population plays on the Fel side, hmm I wonder why? Perhaps because the majority of people who play UO don't like open PvP or the toxicity that comes along with it. 

    95% of the players pay to keep the servers running while ~50% of the events cater to 5% of the population.

    I was wondering about the shard bound items, but if it keeps people like PsycoderFor from bringing their toxicity to other shards just to farm items, I'm all for shard bound. Keep people like them on Atlantic.
  • marcmarc Posts: 15
    There wouldn't be a Trammel if players were happy at Felucca. Lag at tram side forced me to fel. At tram side event devolved into a horde of players trying to kill spawning mobs as soon as they spawn. Lag heavily favors ranged templates.
  • RhelRhel Posts: 29
    edited November 25
    marc said:
    There wouldn't be a Trammel if players were happy at Felucca. Lag at tram side forced me to fel. At tram side event devolved into a horde of players trying to kill spawning mobs as soon as they spawn. Lag heavily favors ranged templates.
    Seems only about 5% are happy in Fel, maybe less if we factor in there are probably more people in your situation, who just go to Fel because they feel its the only option.

    So, why is the Fel ruleset even being supported for less than 5% of the population? 
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