State of IDOC
I know this will fall on deaf ears but here we go.
I would like to know what is going to be done about IDOC scripters. I been active for the past few weeks and have gone to quite a few IDOC on Alt shard. Here are a few things I have noticed. As soon as a house goes into the greatly stage of decay there is always at lest one person sometimes a lot more camping it. We can tell this buy walking a pet around the base of the house. So there is a afk scripter keeping track of the time change. Once a house is about the fall the same people show up with in 5 to 20 mins of it falling sometimes only sec they apper along with pack miles. A few even open gates to get there scripter bots from the other houses. All the pets have the same name. I have seen one person open a gate and have 3 other characters on auto following. Once there he stops and hides then moves his auto scripters to each side of the house witch then block movement for real players pets . I myself have seen a house fall and right before it goes the scripters are auto looting all chests and other items. I have seen the pack horse stones change a few secs before the house falls. This also happens to lock down vet rewards. Seen the statues (vet rewards) disappear before the house falls then later seen that statue locked down at the one scripter castle. At one idoc that was empty on ice island on alt. Once the house fell all the packeies ran north to the one scripter castle because the house was empty. OSI owned ones are falling at random times. Have seen three one at fairly, one at somewhat and one at greatly fall before going into last stage of decay. This only benefits the afk scripter bots. I myself do now know how a place can be fairly and fall half hour to a hour later. This issue was not there when I did them for years before I retured to the game. Each OSI house has at lest 1 person in the same spot. I have yet to see a OSI idoc go into last stage before it drops. One was a 18x18 malas checked it was at fairly recalled in 30 mins later before going to bed and was gone all that was there was the one scripters account waiting to time out. Who did this benefit no one but the camped scripter. It happend once more last night a 18x18 outside luna walls was only somewhat and fell. I checked it before I loged for the night Log in and it's gone. Am sure the camped bots had a field day with the loot. Had at lest 20 fire paintings. And who knows what other items. At one place I was checking I found some runes on the ground. With names and times on them. I placed them in a rune book and checked they where all for past idoc that have droped. I have not been to one idoc that did not have any kind of scripter at it. If I do not do anything in 15 minutes am loged out. How do the scripters stay loged in with standing in same spot with out doing anything stay loged in. I am just looking for some fairness in the one active I can do. I gave up on spawns and everything else becaue the RNG does not faver me. In 10 years and countless champ spawns all I have goting was one Lt sash rep. All the pinks i seem to collect are for skills with no use. EM events cause to much lag so its unplayable for me. Wife and kids both 4 and 2 and one on the way keep most of my time. So when I can play So the only way for me to make some kind of gold in game is to do idoc but even that is worthless when all your able to grab is a empty chest because there all in packed inside of the scripters pack mules. Most of the items I collect can only be found at idoc because people want way to much gold for an item. How about we just delete OSI because they only benefit the scripter. If this is allowed then add it to game that everyone can run scripts for the fairness of the game. It seems the only way to beat the cheaters is to cheat.
I would like to know what is going to be done about IDOC scripters. I been active for the past few weeks and have gone to quite a few IDOC on Alt shard. Here are a few things I have noticed. As soon as a house goes into the greatly stage of decay there is always at lest one person sometimes a lot more camping it. We can tell this buy walking a pet around the base of the house. So there is a afk scripter keeping track of the time change. Once a house is about the fall the same people show up with in 5 to 20 mins of it falling sometimes only sec they apper along with pack miles. A few even open gates to get there scripter bots from the other houses. All the pets have the same name. I have seen one person open a gate and have 3 other characters on auto following. Once there he stops and hides then moves his auto scripters to each side of the house witch then block movement for real players pets . I myself have seen a house fall and right before it goes the scripters are auto looting all chests and other items. I have seen the pack horse stones change a few secs before the house falls. This also happens to lock down vet rewards. Seen the statues (vet rewards) disappear before the house falls then later seen that statue locked down at the one scripter castle. At one idoc that was empty on ice island on alt. Once the house fell all the packeies ran north to the one scripter castle because the house was empty. OSI owned ones are falling at random times. Have seen three one at fairly, one at somewhat and one at greatly fall before going into last stage of decay. This only benefits the afk scripter bots. I myself do now know how a place can be fairly and fall half hour to a hour later. This issue was not there when I did them for years before I retured to the game. Each OSI house has at lest 1 person in the same spot. I have yet to see a OSI idoc go into last stage before it drops. One was a 18x18 malas checked it was at fairly recalled in 30 mins later before going to bed and was gone all that was there was the one scripters account waiting to time out. Who did this benefit no one but the camped scripter. It happend once more last night a 18x18 outside luna walls was only somewhat and fell. I checked it before I loged for the night Log in and it's gone. Am sure the camped bots had a field day with the loot. Had at lest 20 fire paintings. And who knows what other items. At one place I was checking I found some runes on the ground. With names and times on them. I placed them in a rune book and checked they where all for past idoc that have droped. I have not been to one idoc that did not have any kind of scripter at it. If I do not do anything in 15 minutes am loged out. How do the scripters stay loged in with standing in same spot with out doing anything stay loged in. I am just looking for some fairness in the one active I can do. I gave up on spawns and everything else becaue the RNG does not faver me. In 10 years and countless champ spawns all I have goting was one Lt sash rep. All the pinks i seem to collect are for skills with no use. EM events cause to much lag so its unplayable for me. Wife and kids both 4 and 2 and one on the way keep most of my time. So when I can play So the only way for me to make some kind of gold in game is to do idoc but even that is worthless when all your able to grab is a empty chest because there all in packed inside of the scripters pack mules. Most of the items I collect can only be found at idoc because people want way to much gold for an item. How about we just delete OSI because they only benefit the scripter. If this is allowed then add it to game that everyone can run scripts for the fairness of the game. It seems the only way to beat the cheaters is to cheat.
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Please make the Grizzled Mare a 5 slot mount, it's incredibly rare and deserves it. Some of us have been waiting a long time for this simple addition.
Suppose when a house dropped it was counted as one ginormous trash can with a 0.? % chance of items from the house appearing in Cavern of the Discarded?
Please make the Grizzled Mare a 5 slot mount, it's incredibly rare and deserves it. Some of us have been waiting a long time for this simple addition.
Please make the Grizzled Mare a 5 slot mount, it's incredibly rare and deserves it. Some of us have been waiting a long time for this simple addition.
As far a heritage items ether let them go poof, the nearest City Governor auction them off for the city treasury or the shard's EM use them for event prizes. (my preference would be every thing goes poof)
- The items in IDOCs should NOT be falling for the 'public' [scripters] to loot
- Housing decay should NOT be viewable to anyone that is not on the account holder's account.
Wow! Solved script IDOCs and script house placement with two simple changes! Amazing.Now, whether all the contents should be deleted or not is arguable. I would be fine with any of these scenarios when houses fall:
- All contents gets destroyed.
- Each item in the house has a 50%/50% chance of being deleted and the items that are not go in to a moving crate style container for the owner to reclaim if/when they get a new house.
- All items get moving crate style container for the owner to reclaim if/when they get a new house.
Life happens and allowing players to retain even some of their items when their house falls would be nice and might even help player retention. On the other hand, I can see how Broadsword would not like that.I will be slow to reply because I cannot log in/stay logged in to the forums.
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in 2010 I rebuilt my house in the exact same spot with my now main char.
When i logged onto the original house char, her backpack was full.
And when i went to the bank, it was overflowing, over 300+ items.
After I started looking through all the stuff, I realized that when my house fell, all blessed items went to the bank and in her backpack.
I had to stop playing again, for awhile, so most of that I lost again.
When I got back into game, the only thing my chars had was what I left with them.
I don't know why that happened to that char, but I was glad to have gotten my stuff back, when I came back. It was completely unexpected and if it wasn't for that I wouldn't have several of my chars valentine bears. And my holiday deco, hehe.
I heard someone else had that happen to them, around the same time.
If I knew then, how to take a screenshot, I would have.
Maybe they could do that again, make blessed items go to the owners bank box.
Block packy's from entering the foot print of the fallen house for 5 minutes. People would need to pick stuff up and move to outside the foot print to put stuff in the packy. Once outside the foot print the character is blocked from going back in.
And those who call for removing IDOCs altogether, keep in mind - this will hike the prices on everything even higher than they are now. So, think carefully about what you wish for.
Please make the Grizzled Mare a 5 slot mount, it's incredibly rare and deserves it. Some of us have been waiting a long time for this simple addition.
The most common suggestions in this thread are:
- Remove decay state from house sign
- Delete loot
How would either of these, even individually, benefit scripters more? Are they going to set up 20 chars at each house on every shard and facet in hopes it goes IDOC? Or loot the nothing that drops when the house falls? LOLCan you please think before you make nonsensical claims?
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And as far as your other suggestion - removing the decay state from the house sign means that regular players can stumble onto a fallen house only by accident. I don't think there are many that would spend all their time traveling the lands looking for a fallen house. But guess who has all the time in the world to endlessly run a predetermined path looking for stuff on the ground? Thaaat's right! A bot could do that 24/7. And your suggestion just took us from a situation where a regular player had a chance to at least get a small portion of the loot, to one where there is no chance at all.
Did this make a bit more sense?
And before you come back with "Supply and Demand" , yeah I know what that is, but I also know what hoarding is, I've done it. Hoarding and greed go hand in hand. The first thing people think of after they leave an idoc with tons of loot is, Man I"m gonna be rich, not , "Finally I can bring down the cost of goods for everyone".
Please make the Grizzled Mare a 5 slot mount, it's incredibly rare and deserves it. Some of us have been waiting a long time for this simple addition.
And hoarding? Do you really think the professional scripters do this to hoard? No. It gets dumped on the market immediately. And even if they did not, supply and demand still apply. It even applies when they sell it on gold sellers website. Because after someone buys it for real money, either immediately or eventually that item ends up being sold for gold. And that lowers prices.
The idea of the items in a IDC being put into a moving box for if the account ever puts up another house is a good one. It might bring back the player who wants to come back but doesn't want to start from scratch.
BAD idea, than you will have people that will stock up houses to the max, close acc and wait til fall, since they know that account hold now for free on UO server the contents of his house, basic you giving free storage to be abused.
I think the best idea presented is remove the house sign status, yes , there is a downfall that the pro bot/afk people can just adust their rail/scan system and scan for chests/deed/grubbers 24/7 and make sound an alarm when found and they will get all, as usual.
Mesanna said, she will not remove idoc of the game, because is part of UO gamestyle.
So why not revert for the way it was before and add an NPC in luna or brit, wtver, with all idocs location and time that will fall (sarcasm) .
Devs cant even fix small little bugs, we def dont want them to mess with houses anymore.
Also would be cool if you heard a rumble/crashing and maybe even a screen shake (like the Earthquake spell) when something collapsed nearby.