An Explanation From The Devs Regarding Deceit 'AFK Penalty' and Actioning Accounts is Required
It's time for some official word on what is happening in Deceit (and started in Destard). The same multibox groups and sampires are running around 23/7 without hesitation (I have personally paged on them dozens of times), yet, lots of players are being hit with the 'AFK Penalty' aka being unable to attack monsters for a period of time and now accounts are being actioned without GM contact:
Rules of Conduct: 6) You may not leave an active character or pet in game while unattended. If your character is performing a skill, text or action, you must be able to respond to a Game Master when one attempts to speak to you.
... which is a direct violation of their own ROC, yet is upheld when disputed.
The players deserve some sort of an explanation of what's going on instead of complete silence @Mesanna @Kyronix @Bleak
Rules of Conduct: 6) You may not leave an active character or pet in game while unattended. If your character is performing a skill, text or action, you must be able to respond to a Game Master when one attempts to speak to you.
... which is a direct violation of their own ROC, yet is upheld when disputed.
The players deserve some sort of an explanation of what's going on instead of complete silence @Mesanna @Kyronix @Bleak
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I doubt we are supposed to come here and talk about actions against our own accounts.
I told you at the beginning of Deceit I got hit with the time out in Destard by the Ankh while afk.
- Legitimate players being flagged AFK and unable to attack monster.
- Legitimate players being actioned by GMs without investigation, leading to account action/ban.
- Bots running around 23/7.
- Multibox groups unchecked.
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This change of penalizing bad actors has been a positive for the community. Addressing farming bots has been long over due. The developer's should play their cards close to their chest on this one. If they give specifics of how people are getting hit with the AFK farming tag, people will find a loop hole around it.
The community deserves to know why we have report after report of legit(?) players being hit with it, what they're going to do to prevent that in the future, if this is a test run to eventually flow over gamewide and if there will be actioned accounts on this.
I have no problem with a system being put in and i don't need inner workings.
What i do have a problem with is not knowing if we're going to risk actions on our accounts by means of normal gameplay with a faulty system.
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Again, not saying to get rid of the system, not saying they have to tell us exactly how it works, just that it exists and there could be serious account consequences. I feel like that's a very low bar to set.
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They said in the M&G they will not elaborate.
Don't break the rules and you will be fine.
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I wasn't doing punishable things. so get over it.
Do you monitor all players all the time? Nope. So you do not know what they were doing.
You can read the rest of the thread as to why, but the fast jist of it is:
- It's a new system
- AFK is not always illegal (BIG CHANGE IN POLICY)
- There are serious account consequences
- GMs are not investigating AFK just handing out penalties (BIG CHANGE IN POLICY)
- Tons of alleged false positives**
** = alleged meaning proven in my case. I have not only been hit by the AFK timeout penalty but I have also received written warning through email that I was AFK macroing and did not respond to a GM while I was hunting in deceit. I was not afk. I was never contacted by a GM chat, A GM never showed up, I was never pulled to jail, my gameplay was never interrupted. I was not running any 3rd party programs. This written warning escalates in to a permanent ban if I receive more of them.Yeah, an explanation is necessary. If they're going to start perma banning players, yes, it is required.
IF THEY ARE CHANGING THEIR OWN POLICY AND ROC THAT LEADS TO PERMENANT ACCOUNT ACTION IT IS REQUIRED. DONE, NO EXCEPTION.
Would you ok with them banning players AFK at luna bank/gate/stables performing no actions? No, you wouldn't be, so don't act like and gaslight players in to thinking this isn't a major issue.
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It is their game they can Ban you for 1 action. There is no trial. You are guilty without bail or any trial. You can plead your case in an email like I showed you.
** I have only seen 1 trustworthy case of false tagging. And there are a lot fewer brand new posters coming here to complain. They are understanding what they are doing is wrong.
This is not the place to tell your stories of whoa. We can not do anything to change what is happeneing.
You constant complaining about them not doing anything in these events is what caused them to do something. Now you are mad?
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I find the lack of community concern over false flags alarming especially since we do not know if this super top secret system does or will lead to accounts being suspended.
I haven't been hit with anything as i don't have much in game time lately but i do have over twenty three years invested in prodo, off and on, with multiple accounts, spanning from beta until now. I do not wish to risk my years of time, money and personal accomplishments over what could be possible faulty code.
This is either a bad system or a mass case of pants on fire syndrome. Just seeing the unfixed bugs, some being 10+ years old, i realize this could go in either direction.
This is why i would like it heavily reviewed to work as whatever they intend this to be and addressed as such.