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Can target mount with spells while riding
"if you target a mount (either your own or a third party's) and then someone mounts the pet, using "last target" you're still able to cast spells on the pet, including mana vampire, poison, paralise, invisibility, heal, gift of renewal etc, mount does not receive damage but is affected by the above curses/heals/blesses, so as soon as someone steps off the mount it will be pre paralysed/poisoned etc, also it gives an unintended advantage that a mage can cast mana vampire on a pet while remaining mounted
Expected result: for last target to give the message, target cannot be seen when mount is being ridden"
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also unfair advantage to mage over a warrior, the victim has invested 120 skill points in resisting spells, only for the mage to be able to mana vamp his own pet without risk of my pet being killed.
Related issue: if a pet discord’s a mob and you ride the pet, the mob stays discorded.
expected result: to lose line of sight as pet is no longer a valid target in range of mob.”
A mountable pet, and a player not riding the pet, with player occupying the same square as pet is at distance = 0, according to the server. If the player then mounts the pet, the player is essentially touching the pet, and is in effect at distance = 0 from the player. The pet can surely still "see" a target that it previously discorded. As long as the pet remains in range of the discorded target, all seems fine here.
So then, an interesting question to ask is whether the pet is capable of "multi-tasking", while being ridden. Given most pets have DEX and/or INT on par or far higher than any player character, the practical answer to this is probably a yes.
That brings us around to the question of whether pets should be able to be targeted while they are mounted. It does seem strange that a pet can't be damaged while being mounted. If there is any "exploit" in this thread, perhaps this is the only thing that could be considered such.
Otherwise, seems like some in this thread should consider pursuing security penetration testing.
It does not seem fine the pet cannot be damaged while it's mounted. Changing this will likely be quite unpopular...
Last I checked, healing pets don't bother to heal others in the party/etc. That would be nice to extend... Getting healed by your own pet is hit or miss currently, too.
If the pet could be damaged while mounted, this is the best mitigation, and is more common sense. Makes AoE spells and weapon effects more useful too.
Re: paragons, you can stand your ground/invis/fight/etc, or recall/sacred journey out if in tram.
I (and others) cannot damage my Cu if I'm riding it.
That's using the official EC.
I don't use other clients, so can't speak to whether that exploit can be overcome by other means.
A mounted Cu that is heavily damaged quickly regains hitpoints naturally while mounted, whether it's through regen, or a silent (?) healing skill usage.
If there is some other client (not EC or CC) that allows healing a mounted pet (and not EC/CC), then one interpretation is the EC and CC have a bug that doesn't allow this. Of course, if broadsword wanted to ban people using other clients, this seems like an easy way to detect something is amiss, eh?
All this aside, it is still outside common sense (at least) that mounted pets cannot be damaged. And for sampires/swap dragons, perhaps there is a reason these can have such high resists with exceptional dragon barding deed armor...
it’s not just healing the pet while riding that is outrageous, the ability to mana vamp it too makes a mockery of the game”
Doesn't sound like an exploit currently (unless it's impossible to damage the pet), and devs haven't weighed in either way.