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  • ForeverFunForeverFun Posts: 895
    Yoshi said:
    "it is impossible to damage the pet while ridden, you can't poison it with a spell but you can throw a poison dart at it, will not deal poison damage to it though (will just be poisined when they step off it)"
    Still not clear on repro steps, please expound.
  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Posts: 2,421
    Yes please give us detailed information on how to recreate this exploit.
  • YoshiYoshi Posts: 3,322
    “I do not believe Bleak requires any further information”
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  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,243Moderator
    *coughs*
    9. No Posting In Breach Of Games’ Terms of Service - You must not post, or link to materials that are, in breach of the games’ Terms of Service. This includes, but is not limited to:
    1. Advertisement or promotion of unofficial servers.
    2. Information on exploits of bugs in sufficient detail to allow others to perform said exploit.
    3. Cash sales of in game items.
    He can't post it, and no one should be asking him to.
  • ForeverFunForeverFun Posts: 895
    edited September 2021
    Mariah said:
    *coughs*
    9. No Posting In Breach Of Games’ Terms of Service - You must not post, or link to materials that are, in breach of the games’ Terms of Service. This includes, but is not limited to:
    1. Advertisement or promotion of unofficial servers.
    2. Information on exploits of bugs in sufficient detail to allow others to perform said exploit.
    3. Cash sales of in game items.
    He can't post it, and no one should be asking him to.
    It would be great to hear confirmation from the devs what the exploit(s) are here, if any.  Not how to perform any which aren't already apparent.  Players need to know what things to avoid, or what things are ok, if there is any question as to whether something is an exploit.  This forum has many cases of claimed exploits, yet very few receive a confirmation response, or have changes made in publishes.  Likewise, there are differing opinions as to how things should or should not behave.  Communication can go a long ways.
  • YoshiYoshi Posts: 3,322
    edited November 2021
    "It's possible to report people abusing this exploit? FC4 chivalry healing ostard while riding"


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  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Posts: 2,421
    Yoshi said:
    "It's possible to report people abusing this exploit? FC4 chivalry healing ostard while riding"


    That only proves that the player was spamming a spell.  Without the pets health bar it proves nothing.
  • ForeverFunForeverFun Posts: 895
    Bring this thread up, including the link to this thread, at the next meet and greet.
    Yoshi, do you have a bug tracking database up yet?
    :)
  • YoshiYoshi Posts: 3,322
    edited January 2022
    “this exploit is still being abused"
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  • YoshiYoshi Posts: 3,322
    "someone today was healing pet while riding again, it's reportable or?"
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  • UrgeUrge Posts: 1,276
    We were using this back in the early 2000s. It's still a common training method for some casting trainers. 

    After two decades I'd say it's an acceptable feature. 

    They did fix the parasitic fukiya darts on stabled pets tho but one always needs to retest old bugs. 
  • YoshiYoshi Posts: 3,322
    “You can’t vet pet while riding, why should you be able to heal it or mana mana vamp it?
    101% bug”
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  • UrgeUrge Posts: 1,276
    Oh ik but after this long it wouldn't look right if they punished for abusing it. 
  • gaygay Posts: 382
    the whole mount interaction is limited to range scope of the last time it was visible (dismounted). it's because of how last target works server side.

    as long as you're within the range of where the mount was mounted, and you're the one riding the mount, you can last target it with spells. once you walk too far off screen you cannot do it anymore, because the last location that the mount was able to be interacted with is now out of range.

    mounts getting poisoned with fukiya/shurikens is because those items have travel times before they function, meaning if someone uses one on your mount as you jump on it, the poison will still land while it's already mounted for the reasons posted above and server rules.

    this is been a functioning mechanic since at least 2001, and was even engineered to work this way as a means of addressing people killing mounts with delayed spells (explosion, ebolt, fireball, ma, mb etc) after they have mounted, and the mount immediately kicking them off after it dies to said delayed spell (which was also a their fix for a beetle dupe method, and even bonded mounts being deleted on death while being ridden bug)
  • YoshiYoshi Posts: 3,322
    edited July 2022
    gay said:
    the whole mount interaction is limited to range scope of the last time it was visible (dismounted). it's because of how last target works server side.

    as long as you're within the range of where the mount was mounted, and you're the one riding the mount, you can last target it with spells. once you walk too far off screen you cannot do it anymore, because the last location that the mount was able to be interacted with is now out of range.



    "This is only true for using last target, but tamers or mana vampers are simply storing the target,"



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  • gaygay Posts: 382
    this is because its your mount, not someone elses. we've always just used last target to target our own mounts and safely heal it up. dedicating a uoa macro to it was considered a waste.

    UOA target self to teleport up is more of an exploit than this is. every client is capable of doing this, even the basic client without any launcher.
  • YoshiYoshi Posts: 3,322
    edited July 2022
    gay said:

    UOA target self to teleport up is more of an exploit than this is. every client is capable of doing this, even the basic client without any launcher.

    "i never actually knew this was the equivelent to target relative up, can use to follow people now (well i was probably shown a long time ago but had forgotten). But you can make a seperate thread about that if you feel it is a bug.

    This thread is about the clear bug/exploit that you can:
    heal your mount while riding that cannot be damaged
    mana vamp your mount while riding: that cannot be seen by other players.

    pet maintains discordance while riding if discord initiated off mount.
    pet maintains bodyguard buff on owner while riding if bodyguard initiated off mount - and pet does not receive the damage..."


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  • McDougleMcDougle Posts: 4,080
    I'm sure with everyone that's posted here paging on theses cheaters the problem will be solved 
    Acknowledgment and accountability go a long way... 
  • YoshiYoshi Posts: 3,322
    edited September 2022
    gay said:


    UOA target self to teleport up is more of an exploit than this is. every client is capable of doing this, even the basic client without any launcher.

    "I am unable to follow people who are using *** script target relative up, with this action (works in some places but not many at all)"
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  • McDougleMcDougle Posts: 4,080
    edited September 2022
    Yoshi said:
    gay said:


    UOA target self to teleport up is more of an exploit than this is. every client is capable of doing this, even the basic client without any launcher.

    "I am unable to follow people who are using *** script target relative up, with this action (works in some places but not many at all)"
    But have you reported them?
    Acknowledgment and accountability go a long way... 
  • YoshiYoshi Posts: 3,322
    edited July 2022
    “As you’re aware, it’s not currently an actionable offence to use cheats”
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  • McDougleMcDougle Posts: 4,080
    Yoshi said:
    “As you’re aware, it’s not currently an offence to use cheats”
    So again you come to complain without having reported.  No one will listen as long as this is the case.  come and post i reported 50 of my guild members and no one got banned then you will gain public sympathy 
    Acknowledgment and accountability go a long way... 
  • YoshiYoshi Posts: 3,322
    “joke game"
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  • McDougleMcDougle Posts: 4,080
    Yoshi said:
    “joke game"
    How many did you report today?? Look if we're going to lay the cards on the table you have a few Choices 
    1. Quit pvp
    2. Create ej account and join the jokers 
    3. And this you know is my favorite REPORT  CHEATERS...
    Acknowledgment and accountability go a long way... 
  • RorschachRorschach Posts: 526Moderator
    Thank you for your feed back.
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