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I do like the evade cap idea and actually like Lynk's idea about leaving it alone if magic is below 70. I think these classes should be rewarded for playing them as intended in the pure form.
I wonder if splinter could be changed? Maybe remove the force walk and add in higher tick damage?
Shatter potions should require the user to be on foot, not in animal form, and unable to hide for a duration.
Not to be rude, but deathstrike is far far far from OP. To cost 320 skill points it's very underpowered if you ask me.
Yes, evasion is an issue. Being able to hit a button and survive a perfect 7 person 2 spell dump with 70% life should not be a thing. I'm not sure what the best solution is but it is something that has been brought up multiple times and has never been addressed.
Shatter pots IMO should not even exist. They are primarily used as a troll tactic and disrupt what would otherwise be fun fights between groups. If the idea is to make players less reliant on consumables, put timers on potions. Don't make it so a small number of troll type players not really participating in PVP can alter fights and make the game less enjoyable for others.
Splintering combined with focus attack is an issue. When you get slept and swarmed by multiple dexxers who have a 60% splinter proc chance and get kept walking for 10+ seconds straight it creates a feel bad moment in the game. The "nerf" on splintering wasn't really a nerf at all. Bleed was never the issue, it is the walking portion of it. And now that on subsequent splinters you don't get bled you cant even use bandages to heal the splinter to shorten the walking duration portion of it. There should be some sort of immunity to it similar to that of the bone breaker or mortal wound.
Base weapon damage was never meant for the suits/templates that are now available to players today. When the weapons were introduced did the devs ever think that players would be running around on 830 skill point templates with 150 str 210 stam and 150 mana? The reason everyone plays parry characters is because you can get 2 shot killed by a max damage yumi archer or dexxer with an ornate axe swinging at 1.25 seconds hitting for 80-90 damage a pop. I do not believe this was ever intended. The suits have evolved and the weapons were never balanced out to accommodate the amount of stat increase now available to players.
Jewel/item swapping has become an issue. I know some have posted on this long ago seeing it as a potential issue but it has now become a real issue. With a single button you can adjust the skill increase items on your suit to allow for absurd templates. The primary issue with this is swapping for ninja form. You now only need to fit 35ish real skill ninja into a template to reliably get into animal form by swapping to +ninja skill items when the time is needed. For new or returning players it is already extremely difficult to get back up to speed gear wise for the current meta. A normal jewel set for a decent pvp setup is going to run 300-500 mil. Take into account that a large portion of the pvp community is not running basic pvp setups and instead have high end setups including a 2nd or 3rd set of jewels on each toon to cover whatever skills they need at the time it makes it way too hard for players who haven't been around for years to come back and compete.
Lastly the target relative issue needs to be addressed some how. I'm not sure how the UO dev team could do this because its outside programs that allow this to be done, but perhaps something can be done as far as wall of stone. Currently there are certain groups whose entire tactic is to chase players around with 6 mages spamming wall of stone 3 tiles in front of whoever they are chasing while their archers go for dismounts. It is very frustrating and creates stale pvp. This forces almost every fight to be held inside guard zone somewhere so this exploit cannot be used. A cool down on casting wall of stone outside of dungeons might be a solution. WOS is very important in dungeons as you need to be able to cast them quickly to set up traps or escapes but it was never intended to be used open field the way it is now being used.
I know the pvp community is a small portion of the overall UO community but we pay to play this game just like everyone else and a little love on the concerns we bring up would be greatly appreciated. Spend some time observing fights and all of the issues brought up will become apparent.
Average swing is in the 60 range, and that is on a template with no parry, ninja, or weaving (aka squish). The amount of skill points invested to get there is significantly higher than what it takes for an archer to get to high end.
But gold has been disposable to gain an edge since pvp became item based. We've all spent countless coin on fotm temps we straight knew were getting nerfed before we made them.
I was curious, so I asked. We've all been here making suggestions that would make pvp more fun, but there will always be the one or two that insist the game is beyond broken because of things that don't even exist.
I guess it's totally uncalled for to ask people to explain or provide evidence for claims instead of just going off they're vague description of an unknown issue.
Just because someone doesn't really pvp anymore doesn't mean they're not qualified to offer opinions.
You're both right. You're right in splinter being op. Nikard is right in that the +skill has created templates that are hurting the game and making pvp bland.
When you have lower skilled players getting an ego because they can piece an unnatural unkillable template together, you have a major problem.
There is no diversity and weakness when you just add in everything you want into one character. It's almost like playing ABC.
I believe that his points on evasion is spot on and the same with splintering focus attack. These are all reasonable requests that adds only an upside of different templates being utilized. I would also like to bring a suggestion that would also create a viable option for creativity that makes this game unique.
I believe we should remove any requirement of tactics To toggle specials and also bring back to the game the ability to toggle specials while casting spells. This will open up a whole class of possibilities and creativity that really makes you unique with just a small tweak of coding.
thank you for reading.
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From what I can tell, his point was that illegal programs are a big problem in PvP, which they are. But instead of agreeing that those are an issue, or just ignoring his post, you decided to nitpick about mechanics that may or may not exist. And not only that, you did it in a defensive manner. Hence my rhetorical tongue-in-cheek question.
On the other note, you can reference any thread I've posted in here or on stratics for constructive ideas, reasons WHY I think what I do, and actual game evidence. Can you link me to any thread where your pvp related post contains an actual suggestion, pics/video evidence, or anything even related to the topic? I'd be impressed if you had a single one.
Take away skill increase and people are still going to play whatever is the most survivable against a barrage of max swing, max damage dexxers with 30-60 splinter. So instead of a mystic evade mage, chances are I'll just play a plain evasion mage. I'd bet most players would too.
If skill increase was the issue, why wouldn't more players be putting all of that skill increase into more offense instead of the VAST majority of templates fitting in evasion and then working their way from there?