Wall of stone Cooldown fix

The_Higgs_1

Due to outside programs influencing todays pvp, there is players using a script to cast wall of stone to a relative tile 2 tiles ahead of your character.  A simple solution to this issue is to add a small cooldown to casting wall of stone. (5-10 secs).  Please add this to make pvp better again.

Tjalle

I can´t pity the cheaters enough. It must suck to suck at a game.

Lynk

I can get behind this

Cetric

Same.  A well known freeshard had a 30 second cool down on stone walls and e fields, and the ability to do what ur referring to was disabled, and they still had it in place. 

One of the few times I can agree with a higgs complaint.

Cazador

Cetric said:

Same.  A well known freeshard had a 30 second cool down on stone walls and e fields, and the ability to do what ur referring to was disabled, and they still had it in place. 

One of the few times I can agree with a higgs complaint.

30 seconds was too long of a timer imo, but 10 should suffice.

Lynk

Put the cool down on every field spell.

Max_Blackoak

wouldn't mind a cooldown, the real problem however is the outside programs. What I don't understand is that aparently some freeshards are able to ban entire programs or at least some of their features, broadsword on the other hand can't for some reason.

WornOutYourTool

Max_Blackoak said:

wouldn't mind a cooldown, the real problem however is the outside programs. What I don't understand is that aparently some freeshards are able to ban entire programs or at least some of their features, broadsword on the other hand can't for some reason.

Freeshards run servers for kicks, this ones one profit.  We all know it.  Pandering mode cranked to 11.

The_Higgs_1

No need to do every field spell cause only wall of stone be casted fast enough to ruin gameplay, others are lvl 6 and above.

Dukarlo

It's ironic that people want an in game mechanic altered because of 3rd party programs. That pretty much sums up the state of pvp. Perhaps that's a big reason no one pvps anymore? People can complain all day long about this and that pvp feature but the reality is the player base is to blame for the state of pvp.

WornOutYourTool

Not irony and irrelevant.  Peeps just asking for something reasonable to even the playing field vs players that cheat. 

 Make a thread about how you think PvP is dead and a joke if that's what's bothering you.

Teclo

is it wall of stone that is broken or the 3rd party programs in use

Cetric

The programs.  See the programs are good in many ways, evening up the feature sets of EC and cc, but a few features such as the one used for walls hurt their validity.  I don't see them fixing programs, or allowing programs and then negotiating features to shut off specific commands, so next best thing would be a short cool down on stone walls.

Bill_Cosby

Put a cool down of 8 seconds or make any 3rd party program a perma man. I’d love for everyone to be back on uo assist

Paithan

I think you should be able to cast 2 and then cool down til the first one drops.  For multiple purposes.

Crunch

Don't forget Teleporting to the relative tile to land a melee hit also. Some shitty players also are doing that with the 3rd party programs. 

The_Higgs_1

Can we get a small cooldown on wall of stone?  @Kyronix @Bleak

Nikard

To be honest I would be happy with just not being able to cast a second one until the first one falls. I can outplay wall scripts all day, but its much harder when they can KEEP THROWING THEM. At a faster rate than you can physically move/dispel/teleport.

Lynk

Crunch said:

Don't forget Teleporting to the relative tile to land a melee hit also. Some shitty players also are doing that with the 3rd party programs. 

Does blitz know ur trash talkin him here?

Rorschach

Stay on topic and adhere to the terms of service. 

chad

Thirty second cool down on walls unless connected to terrain.

Inside dungeons = terrain
Touching house wall = terrain
Touching a mountain side = terrain
Touching another wall = terrain
Buildings such as Shadow Lord base = terrain

Would be extra cool if walling on top of a person blocked the middle tile...like it used to.

Benelli

Also talked about in @Cetrics pvp thread from August. 

Cookie

The fault is the 3rd party programs. So why be adjusting ingame mechanics?

Wall of Stone, in its own right, works correctly and well, helps a clever mage trap, protect.

If you were to make any adjustment to the timer of wall of stone, 30 second cooldown would not be the right adjustment, that would kill the spell, and just make mages weaker overall.

If you were to make any timing adjustment, you need to time the time taken for a 3rd party program to cast and place the wall, against a top player doing it unassisted. Then the timing cooldown adjustment needs to be the difference between these 2 figures.

It would not be fair on me, as a real player, to be affected in any way by this. All I would request, would be that 3rd party program users are slowed down to real speed. It could be 0.25 seconds, 0.5 seconds, 1 second, I don't know precisely, that's why someone would have to time it properly. Remember PvP is fast, and milliseconds count. 30 seconds kills off the spell, 0.25 seconds, potentially puts us all back on an even keel, without me even noticing it in my spellplay.