Triton Statue "instructions" for proper use : can someone please point me to them ?

Violet

Mervyn said:

Petra_Fyde said:

Where you claim it only matters if you plan to train it.
If you plan to train it, then you have read the information on pet training
Therefore you have read the notes regarding Bushido, Ninjitsu and Chivalry
Someone remembered what they read.
You didn't. 

So, when purchasing a 120+ wrestling triton from another player, like popps said, how are you supposed to know where it was claimed?

I am an expert on pets yet did not think to claim my pet in Tokuno, (partly because i couldn't enter Tokuno with that char) as you would think the skills it can train would actually be linked to the TYPE of creature it is. If someone releases a dragon in tokuno and i tame it, i wouldn't expect it to develop bush/ninj.

As for the wiki saying "only creatures from Tokuno may train Bushido or Ninjitsu", well they're not "From" tokuno even if claimed there, they are from bucs den as a reward. Is this also the case with vollems held in crystals and paroxysmus swamp dragons, vanity store pets etc?

A pet has to be magical capable and spawn in tokuno to be considered a tokuno pet.  Releasing a dragon and retaming it is not spawning it.  However, if you are taming a dread spider in tokuno, it has access to bushido/ninjitsu while a dread spider tamed elsewhere does not. So buying a Dread Spider off a magincia stall, you would not know if it has access to those abilities either.  It has been this way since Patch 97. All magical capable pets spawned in Tokuno get access to Bushido/Ninjitsu.  

Tritons technically spawn where you click on the crystal, as that is where it's stats are determined.

Tanager

Does this mean that a Lasher purchased from the store can have access to those abilities if I open the crystal while in Tokuno?

Mervyn

Just sell your non tokuno tritons to some poor unsuspecting victim. This is the conclusion I am reading from the majority of posts on this thread.

Also, noboby mentioned this on testing:

https://forum.uo.com/discussion/3417/pub-104-triton-pet/p3

kinda odd...

jelinidas

Isn't kind of part of the fun to "discover" things as we go? Isn't that why we play? I'm thinking this may not be the game for some of you. Get out there, explore. Test things. Have fun!!

Khyro

Mervyn said:

Just sell your non tokuno tritons to some poor unsuspecting victim. This is the conclusion I am reading from the majority of posts on this thread.

Also, noboby mentioned this on testing:

https://forum.uo.com/discussion/3417/pub-104-triton-pet/p3

kinda odd...

Because it was discovered the night Tritons went live to production. 

To quote myself earlier in this thread (amazing how many people don't actually read threads):

"In regards to the Triton being spawned in Tokuno enabling it to get Bushido/Ninjitsu, this was discovered after it went live to all shards. It was brought to the Devs attention privately to ask if it was intended or not. After we were told this is OK, this information was then made publicly available on our website and other sites. "

In response to: "Just sell your non tokuno tritons to some poor unsuspecting victim" -- Tell me, how many Bushido/Ninjitsu pets do you actually have? Would you have any intention of giving a Triton Bushido/Ninjitsu if it were available by default? Stop making mountains out of molehills.

There are pets already like this in the game:
- Dread Spiders that are tamed in Tokuno can get Bushido/Ninjitsu. Ones that are tamed elsewhere cannot. 
- Lava Lizards that are tamed in Tokuno can get Bushido/Ninjitsu. Ones that are tamed elsewhere cannot.

Do we need a giant gump when taming a non-Tokuno Dread Spider that says "Whoa there! It appears you are taming a Dread Spider outside of Tokuno! Did you know you will not be able to give it Bushido/Ninjitsu unless you go tame one from Tokuno instead? Are you sure you wish to continue?!"

Tritons aren't limited to one per person, you can get another Triton and spawn it in Tokuno if you want to try one with Bushido/Ninjitsu. 

This thread wouldn't even exist if we did not publish this information to our website for others to see. Now multiple people are creating drama over this fact and acting like their Triton is "ruined".

That tells me that people should just not try to inform others of what they discover because it just creates needless drama. I guess ignorance really is bliss.

Mervyn

I personally claimed only 1 and had no intention of putting either bushido or ninjitsu on it even if it was an option, however I do sympathise with those that claimed many (to get one over 120 wrestling), as for dread spiders and lava lizards, you just tame them, you don't have to down 14 plunderbeacons to get one to spawn.

So it was only discovered when it when live, yet everyone who didn't know about it is stupid and didn't do enough research. OK...

off topic: but @Khyro you should add info about hidden backpacks on triceratops, there's nothing mentioned on your site. https://www.uo-cah.com/bestiary?creature=Triceratops#b

Khyro

Mervyn said:

So it was only discovered when it when live, yet everyone who didn't know about it is stupid and didn't do enough research. OK... 

Nowhere did I call or imply that anyone that did not know this was stupid. 

I guess we should add safety gumps to the game for everything that can make someone feel sad, yes? Let's get a giant gump for Imbuing:

"Hi There! It looks like you are attempting to Imbue an item, but you didn't apply powder of fortification! Did you know you will be unable to PoF this item after you Imbue it? Are you sure you want to continue?"

Or we can stay on the theme of tamers, maybe we should have a warning gump when applying a Magical Ability to a pet that already has one?:

"Completing this training will remove all Magical abilities from this pet. All pet training is final and can't be unlearned. Do you want to complete this training?"

Oh wait, that one actually already exists, my bad. I forgot that most people just ignore it (yourself included) and then claim they had no warning whatsoever that they would lose Magery/etc.

Mervyn

Petra_Fyde said:

Where you claim it only matters if you plan to train it.
If you plan to train it, then you have read the information on pet training
Therefore you have read the notes regarding Bushido, Ninjitsu and Chivalry
Someone remembered what they read.
You didn't. 

JollyJade said:

Stupid players, playing the game instead of reading all publish notes and "subsequent information" up front.

You're beating a dead horse.. the mentality you ask for is non-existent in UO..

Khyro, I wasn't talking about what you said, i'm talking about these kinds of comments, that implied that people are stupid for not knowing..even though it wasn't discovered untll live publish despite months of hard grind testing from professionals such as @Violet

Your personal attack about me not reading gumps on magical abilities (not sure where you got that idea from) is both off topic and inaccurate. This is the gump, however it says nothing about what happens to invested points if you train more than one magical ability. It also states "innate magic ability" it's possible to select more than one magic ability to train so the first magical ability that you invested points into would not be innate..

Violet

Mervyn said:

Khyro, I wasn't talking about what you said, i'm talking about these kinds of comments, that implied that people are stupid for not knowing..even though it wasn't discovered untll live publish despite months of hard grind testing from professionals such as @ Violet

Your personal attack about me not reading gumps on magical abilities (not sure where you got that idea from) is both off topic and inaccurate. This is the gump, however it says nothing about what happens to invested points if you train more than one magical ability. It also states "innate magic ability" it's possible to select more than one magic ability to train so the first magical ability that you invested points into would not be innate..

I replied once in this thread giving information. Please stop attempting to troll me. Maybe you forgot you posted this, I can link the original thread if you would like your memory be refreshed with what you wrote.

Mervyn said:
4 why have you even got the option to put 2 magical abilities on when the second will negate the first and you don’t get any warning. 

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Mervyn

This is off topic but I meant you don't get any warning about what happens to the invested points if you train 2 magical abilities on a pet. With special abilities and special moves, once you have selected one special ability, you no longer get the option to add another, with special moves, once you have selected 2, you don't get an option to add a third. Yet it gives you the option to train a magical ability, then again an option to train a second magical ability- poisoning normally... which it should just not give the option for, as you do not get the points back from the first trained magical ability.

But you DO get the points back from innate magical abilities.

Mariah

This thread is getting rather heated, and since the request in the opening post is adequately addressed by the specialist site https://www.uo-cah.com I am closing this discussion.