Pub 105 - Cleanup Britannia Update

Uriah_Heep

*starts packing mannequins up for trip to Atl*

lol

Ivenor

Uriah_Heep said:

*starts packing mannequins up for trip to Atl*

lol

I'm not joking! I just checked, and the lower price for it is even higher!!!

Maximus_Neximus

Ivenor said:

3) PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE bring the SoulStones CUB Points value to ZERO. It is simply unfair  and depressing that the Souls of departed (maybe only for some time) Players got trashed by the cubic ton by the darn IDOC Scripter Looters, and it makes almost impossible to create SoulsStone Gardens!

Or maybe only allow ones with zero charges to give points.

Dot_Warner

All the point values are still far, far too low and do not align with previous item values. 

All the values on the list could be multiplied by a factor of 10 and sill be laughably, insultingly low.

Do better.

Dot_Warner

Here are some examples of poorly thought out point values:

Lanterns, Sculptures, Paintings and Pillows from Artisan Festival  15
This is ridiculously low for the effort involved in obtaining these items, especially for people on low-pop shards. Remember, Atlantic didn't even manage to successfully grow all of its trees.  These should be 500 points each, the boxes should be 300 each. 

Guild Signs/Books  15
These don't drop often enough to be this low. They should be worth 250, minumum. 

Crafted Talisman (Note: maybe already defined as "Talismans"?)  15
Huh? We can't craft talismans... Did you mean BoD talismans? If so, 15 points is about 985 points too low. 

Counterfeit Platinum (Pub 101)  3
Three points? Seriously? Try 300. 

Death Certificate  250
Uhm... this is a case of being oddly high for something that can be almost endlessly grinded. However, well take the points TYVM. 

And now for three of the most patently insulting entries:
Orc Ships  45
45 points... For something that takes eight randomly generated pieces to create, meaning you have to capture a metric crapton of pirates to create one by yourself. An orc ship part should be worth 3500 points each, with a full ship being 30,000 points (bonus points for completing it) [Not that a sane person would throw parts, let alone a full ship into the trash...]

Current Stealables that don't have Clean-Up Points  10
Sorry, but this just feels lazy. There is already precedent for point values based on the rarity. Eodon stealables, many of which spawn just once or twice a week, should be worth considerably more than 10 points - same with the golden toolkit or the Blackthorn's stealables. 

(2015) Shadowguard Artifacts   20
Again, SERIOUSLY? Major artifacts already have precedent for being ~5,000 points. Why should Shadowguard's be so paltry?


I refer to the current list of turn in values to better assist in making consistent point determinations.

Jack's Bag of Trick items should also be added to the list. 

Ivenor

Maximus_Neximus said:

Ivenor said:

3) PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE bring the SoulStones CUB Points value to ZERO. It is simply unfair  and depressing that the Souls of departed (maybe only for some time) Players got trashed by the cubic ton by the darn IDOC Scripter Looters, and it makes almost impossible to create SoulsStone Gardens!

Or maybe only allow ones with zero charges to give points.

@Maximus_Neximus

This to me seems a good base for a compromise!

So, let's say:

1) --- B/G/V/W/Bk SoulStones (and SStone Fragments) WITH Skills stored --- ZERO CUB Points;

2) --- B/G/V/W/Bk SoulStones (and SStone Fragments) WITHOUT Skills stored  --- Same CUB Points as Today (or even increased their CUB Points value).

3) --- RED SoulStones (1st Year Veteran Reward) WITH or WITHOUT Skills Stored --- always ZERO CUB Points (they are VR after all!).

In this way the Origin Store revenue from selling new SStones (the B/G/V/W/Bk ones) should not be touched, and hundreds of hours of Players training will not go sadly wasted.

I.

@Mesanna @Kyronix @Bleak

Ivenor

Dot_Warner said:

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Jack's Bag of Trick items should also be added to the list. 

That, or at least give the Toons a Dental Plan with every paid Account subs.

I was seriously spooked the first time one of my Toons eated a lollipop from the JBoT, and it started lamenting of its teeth problems!!!

I.

CovenantX

The turn-in points awarded for every item in this portion of the update needs an extra 1-2 digits added to them.

Absolutely nothing in this updated list is worth the incredibly low point value they've be assigned.

you'd essentially be losing gold by throwing these things in the trash.

Cinderella

thank you DEVs for the increase in the points

Uriah_Heep

They increased the points?  Where was that noted ?

Cinderella

Uriah_Heep said:

They increased the points?  Where was that noted ?

I looked at the publish notes...
they have been changed since first posted...
(the holiday items listed, most were one digit)

Uriah_Heep

Artisan Festival still looks terribly weak.  

Drakelord

Cinderella said:

Drakelord said:

if there is some you don't need, I will take them
(there is still 3 of them I need hehe)

I let you have them

Arron

Cinderella said:

Uriah_Heep said:

They increased the points?  Where was that noted ?

I looked at the publish notes...
they have been changed since first posted...
(the holiday items listed, most were one digit)

I still think the points awarded for these listed items are terriblely low. I dont see any point reward I would be willing to give up these items for listed here.Time to reorganize my home and get ready for a grand vendor sale. It will take awhile because I have lots of deco, Major and Minor Artifacts.

Ivenor

Maybe an idea could be to to add as a Reward a house deco Statue that spawn Reagents for either the Mystic & the Necro templates?

Like there is the Giant Cat one (Blessed Statue) for Magery reags, we could have a Giant Dog statue for the Mystic reags and a Giant Rat one for the Necro reags?

@Mesanna @Kyronix @Bleak

Petra_Fyde

It has always been my assumption that some things are given really low points because the devs would really rather we didn't destroy those.
If it's not worth throwing away you may as well keep it? or give/sell it to someone who will appreciate it more?

Minerva_Foxglove

That is what I always thought but this time its super low all of it. Similar items in the past has one or two more zeros atleast.. and how many sun dials can you use? or bar signs? I collect deco on many shards to bring home for my deco vendor when I sold out . I like to have the items for cheap so whoever missed some gifts can still get them but there are lots of things that hardly sell. We collected snow fluff trees for some rare colours and have loads of white ones  out there etc etc

Ivenor

Petra_Fyde said:

It has always been my assumption that some things are given really low points because the devs would really rather we didn't destroy those.
If it's not worth throwing away you may as well keep it? or give/sell it to someone who will appreciate it more?

But in that case why give them a CUB Points value at all? And why still give a 15.000 CUB Points value to SoulStones and, at same time, having, on some Shards, OFFICIAL SoulStones Garden run by EMs?

Meh...

TimSt

The shield engraving tool needs a turn in value.