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https://forum.uo.com/discussion/1883/shadowguard-orchard
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If the fountain and roof are no problem, attacking tree fellows are no problem.
What you're suggesting sounds like increasing the grind factor in the game (for legit players), not decreasing it.
My argument is another, the hurting of other players comes from multiboxers and scripters (especially if AFK), being able to get high end items, for example Cameos, with a whole lot, a WHOLE LOT less effort as players who, instead, do it without multiboxing, without scripting and using their own time sat at the keyboard....
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So its alot easier to get and so i assumed your concern is alot of ppl doing this?
Supply increases competition and prices will drop. But I saw Cameo started at 150-175m say 7 years ago and then progressed to the Auction Box with prices up to 300m. I don't know how much they cost now but since every Tom Dick and Harry is farming AFK Multiboxing 24/7 the price must be 1 full set of Cameos for 10k gold only.
The other day someone checked their AFK account that MB for 3 months and and have like 10000 Cameos. Wow.
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Cameo's (on ATL) have only increased in price. Maybe 3-4 years ago you could get an undead / arachnid cameo for like 175m (which were the cheapest ones) but over the last few weeks I've seen those same slayer types selling for 250m. The reptile cameo's were priced at 600-650m during the Destard event lol.
There just isn't a (much) better tali for warriors. The +20 anatomy tali was a nice twist/option for warriors but aside from that there isn't anything else out there good enough not to use a cameo. If they were to add a tali that was like a cameo but instead of SSI it had +15 skills (kind of like soldier's medal but +15 tactics/parry) then the price might fall given there would be other options people would want instead.
Last time I mentioned it April '21. https://forum.uo.com/discussion/6895/shadowguard-and-doom-being-endlessly-scripted/p1
PM me the shard(s) and I'll make sure they're reported on with quite the frequency.
I will be slow to reply because I cannot log in/stay logged in to the forums.
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The real problem is Broadsword not responding at all.
Why are we quarreling among ourselves. Everyone that post here is a paying customer.
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That's why much of UO is not set until you click it. Like a Triton, it is not created until you open it. That way you cant go to TC and see what that statue would make.
All they are doing is pushing buttons and sending the same code the game does. EC was made as a modifiable UI.
IMO its not UOs fault its the players who want to beat the system. I guess they would cheat when playing Sorry.
Its not just UO:
Here is one from another site:
Report: Cheating Is Becoming A Big Problem In Online Gaming
I Doubt UO is the only game that has cheating, that was Arnolds comment.
First, it should be necessary to find "why" players cheat in a game and then, the Design of games should be such that players would then have not those reasons which could make them want to cheat....
For example, if some players were to cheat to then do real money trades, make those real money trades not possible, illegal, sanctionable...this way players would not have the reason to cheat, if they could not get any monetary advantage from their cheating in the game...
Or, just another example, some other players might perhaps want to cheat in order to win in combat or in PvP ? Well, Design the game in a way that players using cheats would actually get "debuffs" and have a higher likeliness to "loose " an in game fight, rather then win it....
Basically, deal with the "why" players might want to cheat in a game so that they would no longer have any reason to use cheats in a game....
At least, that is my opinion about it.
Never be afraid to challenge the status quo
Legend has it when games were on physical cds the code was accidently loaded on a select number of them distributed in Europe(?).
From there, professional programmers were able to create the "easy" button for scripts and also reverse engineer the whole game to create all these free shards.
When the devs decided to move from California to Virginia the original code was supposedly lost. With all the free shards out, the original code is obviously pretty easy to get online somewhere.
I believe they would have to create a brand new game from scratch to really stop anything at this point. As long as we keep giving this version a profit nothing will ever happen.
(By all means, correct me if i'm wrong)
Now lets talk about Trader Quest. THIS quest needs to be cancelled NOW. It has only been scripters heaven since day1. Just look at Vendor Search and those discord channels. Unlimited supplies are popping up everywhere.
Finally, SOCIAL MEDIA.
Their current stance is: "Oh we cannot effort to ban even the worst kind of cheaters because we need to keep more paying customers". This "logic" is so wrong, so twisted.
- Running the roof can be done with EJ accounts, with time of legends expansion.
- Running trader quests requires paid accounts, I believe.
So nothing stops somebody from running the roof and trader quests at the same time, with a mixture of accounts, if they have that capability.The trader quests themselves are IMHO incredibly grindy, fitting my category "People are wanting to save time, reduce the game grind, etc.". I can usually only do the holiday krampus event for one or two nights.
SOTs/pinks -- probably the most valuable SOT is the taming SOT. That's probably because it's a hell of a grind to raise taming.
There a rare drop, something like 1/10000 odds that can come from the trader quest? Let's assume you can run that in 4 minutes per quest. That's equivalent to working an 8 hour shift for 83 days, if you get it to drop after 10,000 runs, and you don't die of boredom doing so. (or $9,960.00 assuming $15/hour labor rate).
Just turning off the trader quest seems like a strange thing to do.
So, for someone scripting Trade Quests for SOTs, especially if AFK, that is without investing any of their time or, even at the keyboard but watching TV or doing stuff on the computer while the script runs, and getting back to respond only if a Game Master says Hallo, is an easy way to make good in-game gold with little effort....
The problem then is, why on earth would any other player not scripting, want to spend their time to get those same items when they cannot compete with players who, because of scripting, are not spending any or much of their time to get those same items ?
This is how in my opinion UO looses some of its players... when players who do not want to script realize how pointless it is for them to spend their time to get items which other players scripting and multiboxing can do way more easily and thus can undersell, how surprising would it be to see some among these players decide to leave UO and go play other games ?
Imagine a player trying, for example, to get a Cameo.... and we know how low the drop rate is for them... and so, since these players neither script nor multibox, they have all of the difficulties of having to spend their time, look for fellow players to do the group necessary for this hunt and all that.
Then, they see some other players who, thanking to their scripting and multiboxing can do the Roof all the time on their own, with much, much less investment of their time in the game, and thus, get Cameos a go go and not only that, of course, but they also get plentifull of the other high end items that the Roof gives as drops...
Would it be surprising to then see quite a number among these players who neither script nor multibox decide that they have had enough with Ultima Online and go play someother game of the tons out there?
And these players which then Ultima Online was to loose, at least to my opinion, would be the good players who do not cheat, while those staying would be those who cheat...
And how good it is, if I may ask, for a game, any game, to see its players base shift from being mostly non-cheating players to cheating players ?
The prices of Cameos are kept artificially high, to my opinion, because these multiboxers and scripters who are getting them with very little investment of their time, hold onto them for the most part and only sell them when they fetch a high price, even though, perhaps, they have a good number of them in their inventory....
Moreless, like it happened with some PvP Guild monopolizing Powerscrolls who, would get Powerscrolls a go-go but, sell them very conservatorily so as to keep their price as high.... this, before Shard Shields and players going to some deserted Shard took place. With more players being able to get Powerscrolls and selling them (before the Taming changes which made pets capable of using Powerscrolls), prices for Powerscrolls finally went down.... then, with the taming and pet changes, demand for Powerscrolls went up again and by quite a lot and, even with an increased offer for Powerscrolls from the use of Shard Shields and farming on lowly populated Shards, the price for Powerscrolls went back up.
It is why Monopolies are bad, to my opinion, because they permit to a limited number of players to jack up prices thus causing a rampant inflation in the game which then can deters a number of new or returning players to want to play Ultima Online...
One thing which could be done, would be to "enhance" the Enhanced Client further and bring it "on par" with the Third Party applications which many among these players scripting and multiboxing are using...
At that point, all UO players would be on an equal footing, they all could Script and Multibox to their hearts' content, and get high end items in UO with little effort of their time no longer needing to go to those players who use Third Party applications to script and multibox.
That is at least the way I see it.
nobody reads them
Learn to get to the POINT
If you find someone cheating, report it. I do. You might not notice any action, especially if the offender is on 'first offence' and only gets a short suspension, but it has always been policy that we're not told what action is taken against particular accounts.
I only did it with 1 account but someone could easily just use 2/3/4/5 accounts with auto follow to sit on the alters. From other posts I've read I think even allied guilds will get 50pts from just being in town so if you just mark a few runebooks you could take a char with 50magery 50hiding and collect points all day long.
How a much, much, much better players' mutual environment would it be if everyone in the game was to play "not to build a bank account ".....
Unfortunately, at least looking at Global Chat messages, how many Auction boxes are in the game and players always looking to buy more, prices of items on Vendors and BIDs at Auctions, I am afraid that there seems to be quite a number of players who, instead, seem, at least to my opinion, to want to play to actually build a bank account....