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They can always return to Destard in future events after fixing the issue.
There are so many places besides Classic dungeons.
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When you can't beat em, we join them.
Maybe its time to read up Dummies for scripts and multi-client, and sign up another 10 EJ accounts. It's a competition on who kills faster, pings, scripts etc.
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So basically you are playing a guessing game of when to cast it and 9 outta 10 times the monster dies before you do any damage (again talking about ATL) anyway.
It's sad that I've also had this thought... basically trying to figure out how to create the best macro to sit there stationary and just run this macro. This event isn't very fun for me at all. It's the first treasures of event where I'm actually looking for other things to do besides the event because I think the event is that broken. You know it's bad when I'm posting more than I play due to how jacked up it is on ATL.
Server side movement detection is likely not reliable in cases like this.
Thank you for the detailed description without speculation and conspiracy theories.
We play on computers, it is surprising that posters do not realize what a computer can do.
I can see the frustration building because this kind of thing could go on in the previous dungeons but the mobs were so spread out they did not interfere with others getting their own drops.
Instead of reckless speculation and making up solutions that hurt legit players, (the cheaters will cheat anyway, and limiting game play techniques only hurts legit players).
Concentrate on ways to make the dungeon fun like it was on the first 2 nights!
I play CC so I created a macro for select nearest hostile / attack target and due to the fact there are 2 actions in the macro (ie takes maybe .5 seconds to actually target) I do not fire quick enough to damage 90% of the targets.
I do not know how many drops they get per toon but multiply that number by however many accounts they use. Then of course apply that to likely 10-15-20 hours a day since they have an endless loop running.
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This event is nothing more than a beat the clock before mobs die.
The other thing I find hard to believe is that EJ accounts are able to collect drops for this event. Why should people be allowed to automate multiple accounts which have no downside as one can be remade if - and that a huge if -- one gets banned. Hell, no reason not to script this or anything else as it appears there are no consequences.
I actually logged into Pacific and played for a couple hours yesterday and today.
At the "pile", both yesterday afternoon and this afternoon, a group of about 5 or 6 people got stuff rolling and I just stood there and cast Thunderstorm. I was averaging about 4-5 drops per cast of Gift of Life, so about 16-20 drops per hour, no potions. If I stood just west of the pile toward the stairs down to level 2, I could hit the north and south edges of the stairs with Wildfire, pulling all those mobs toward me, and the thrower/archers. I think there was 1 thrower and 2 archers, plus 2-3 actual fighters running around. Anyway, no-one was casting summons and the lag wasn't too bad, so that was an ok setup.
However, I also spent about an hour each day running around on the same mage, but not at the pile. Average drops were around maybe 3 an hour...that's not very satisfying. Mage was mid to mid/high end and Mages always have problems with paragons so it is what it is...
I think one of the big problems with the Mage is having to Invis to break aggro. I'm betting that completely messes with your drop rate.
Tried two cross healers in the same locations as the mage (sticking to the east wall of the main room and into the north area) and got about 4-5 drops per hour per toon, so 8-10 per hour total. The x-healers were not geared, but at least could take down the paragons without having to run.
Pawain posted in another thread that one of the things about Destard that's different is the lack of little stuff to kill. I think that is spot on. In Deceit there were gobs of zombies, skeletons, wraiths, etc. Even paragon versions were manageable. Destard seems to start tough and go up from there. I thought they might be adding Fey to give lower level characters something to kill, but uh, no. Why don't you suck on a couple Paragon Lattice Seekers there mid level mage.
FYI, the entire north area, if you drag any dragons/greaters back to the main room, will only spawn drakes, wyverns, water eles, and the Fey/Shadow Wyrm. The Fey and Shadow Wyrm spawn seem to be linked, so you get Shadow Wyrms in all the Fey locations (Possibly C/P drakes as well - C/P may be the alternate days mob for this event).
Anyway, if you rid the North area of dragons/greaters, it's not a bad place for mid level characters to fight (not mid level mages). You can ignore the drakes/wyverns and just concentrate on the Fey. I zoomed the screen way out and like the other Fey spawns, as soon as you kill one another spawns. I've seen them spawn anywhere in that north room now, from the shrine to the water pool in the SE. Makes it harder to find them, but you don't get over-run and a good mage or tamer can solo a paragon without having people dragging to you all the time.
-Good luck.
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At the "pile", both yesterday afternoon and this afternoon, a group of about 5 or 6 people got stuff rolling and I just stood there and cast Thunderstorm. I was averaging about 4-5 drops per cast of Gift of Life, so about 16-20 drops per hour, no potions.
I assumed you mean Thunderstorm in the last paragraph?
Do u use wraith form or bard mastery to support the mana required?
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I would cast Gift of Life and use it as a timer. Gift of Life last's about 16 min.
During the time GoL was running, I would just stand there casting Thunderstorm. When GoL expired, I could see how many drops I'd received in the last ~15min.
So, I did this for about an hour each evening and got around 20 drops each evening, so about 40 drops total over 2 hours spread across two days.
I didn't use Wraith Form or Bard mastery. It was just my mage toon by himself (for these two examples - I did try other setup's - but that was all a big hassle). He's mid-level ish...6x120 with med, focus, magery, eval, weaving, resist, but not really any gear. SDI is about 80 and he's not even wearing a cloak!
I spent a lot of time in active meditation (Wraith Form might be a large bonus here...) and learned to time my Thunderstorm's to when there were multiple critters around. Casting when there's only 1 centaur or something is worthless. Even shadow wyrms die fast to the archers.
That's part of the reason I stood a few tiles west of the main pile, just at the edge of the archers range. I could cast Wildfire out much further, hit a bunch of stuff and pull it towards the pile, get off a Thunderstorm or two as it approached, and then the archers would destroy it on the tile in front of me. I was basically using the archers like a cannon perimeter. I stood within the archer shield and lured enemies into the zone of death.
Again, this is all on Pacific, not sure how any of this would behave on Atlantic.
This event might be fine or even tolerable on other less populated shards but on ATL it's an absolute grind for maybe 4 drops an hour in the pile. Outside of the pile is a bit better but not much; I've barely been able to crack double digit drops at like 6am... during prime time forget about it.
I'll fussed enough about this on Atl. If you're enjoying it then that's awesome.