If Luck Actually Works

gggghhhh0987 · December 21

Pawain said:

Since I have no interest in the hidden chests I assumed that is where the other color dragons also came from.

Now that I know that only matriarch and chests have 83 and 84. All those other color dragons running around are from Nest Maps which yall are here claiming that it is too difficult to get mature eggs from them.

I can see why the devs are like they are. Yall saying the nests don't give mature eggs and they are all over the game!!! I'd call BS on this also.

Call it what it is, yall are posting because you expect the drop rate to be where you play an hour you get a rare prize. What about players who can play 6 to 10 hours a day? They should be getting 10 rare items a day?

You are not posting about anything broken, you just want the item you want to be not rare.

The devs have to balance a game with a diverse player base. Players have different skills, different styles of play, different physical abilities, and stubborn players who still wear the Mage suit on the clean up vendor and use EVs, and many other considerations.

I don't care about or focus on the rarity of items; all I know is that for the past two weeks I've been playing for 5-7 hours every day, using a character with 5000 luck points to farm Dragon Nest and Dragon Queen too , and the result is still the same: I haven't gotten a single mature egg of any color. Now I'm thinking of praising this server and game every day, just like you, so maybe I'll have a chance to get a mature egg. And You also mentioned that players riding dragon mounts are everywhere in the city, but you didn't say that some of them whom bought them with in-game currency or real money. At least I bought mine with in-game currency.

Grimbeard · December 21

gggghhhh0987 said:

Pawain said:

Since I have no interest in the hidden chests I assumed that is where the other color dragons also came from.

Now that I know that only matriarch and chests have 83 and 84. All those other color dragons running around are from Nest Maps which yall are here claiming that it is too difficult to get mature eggs from them.

I can see why the devs are like they are. Yall saying the nests don't give mature eggs and they are all over the game!!! I'd call BS on this also.

Call it what it is, yall are posting because you expect the drop rate to be where you play an hour you get a rare prize. What about players who can play 6 to 10 hours a day? They should be getting 10 rare items a day?

You are not posting about anything broken, you just want the item you want to be not rare.

The devs have to balance a game with a diverse player base. Players have different skills, different styles of play, different physical abilities, and stubborn players who still wear the Mage suit on the clean up vendor and use EVs, and many other considerations.

I don't care about or focus on the rarity of items; all I know is that for the past two weeks I've been playing for 5-7 hours every day, using a character with 5000 luck points to farm Dragon Nest and Dragon Queen too , and the result is still the same: I haven't gotten a single mature egg of any color. Now I'm thinking of praising this server and game every day, just like you, so maybe I'll have a chance to get a mature egg. And You also mentioned that players riding dragon mounts are everywhere in the city, but you didn't say that some of them whom bought them with in-game currency or real money. At least I bought mine with in-game currency.

If you have been playing that much you've made enough in just looted gold to buy egg..

gggghhhh0987 · December 21

Grimbeard said:

gggghhhh0987 said:

Pawain said:

Since I have no interest in the hidden chests I assumed that is where the other color dragons also came from.

Now that I know that only matriarch and chests have 83 and 84. All those other color dragons running around are from Nest Maps which yall are here claiming that it is too difficult to get mature eggs from them.

I can see why the devs are like they are. Yall saying the nests don't give mature eggs and they are all over the game!!! I'd call BS on this also.

Call it what it is, yall are posting because you expect the drop rate to be where you play an hour you get a rare prize. What about players who can play 6 to 10 hours a day? They should be getting 10 rare items a day?

You are not posting about anything broken, you just want the item you want to be not rare.

The devs have to balance a game with a diverse player base. Players have different skills, different styles of play, different physical abilities, and stubborn players who still wear the Mage suit on the clean up vendor and use EVs, and many other considerations.

I don't care about or focus on the rarity of items; all I know is that for the past two weeks I've been playing for 5-7 hours every day, using a character with 5000 luck points to farm Dragon Nest and Dragon Queen too , and the result is still the same: I haven't gotten a single mature egg of any color. Now I'm thinking of praising this server and game every day, just like you, so maybe I'll have a chance to get a mature egg. And You also mentioned that players riding dragon mounts are everywhere in the city, but you didn't say that some of them whom bought them with in-game currency or real money. At least I bought mine with in-game currency.

If you have been playing that much you've made enough in just looted gold to buy egg..

Can you accumulate 500-600 million game coins to buy mature eggs by relying solely on the 2000-3000 game coins from each dragon queen? The ripe egg I bought cost all the in-game currency I had painstakingly accumulated from multiple game events—it was only enough to buy one ripe egg.

Pawain · December 21

Sell drops for gold is what he meant.

I agree with your karma take. I got the obelisks from Mistas , every deco drop in NL. All because I chose a game to play in which I also find fun. And I am a great person in general, who can make up a handle that is not stupid.

NuSair · December 21

Depends on what shard you are on.

But, realistically no. With RMT, duping, and a lack of enforcement though the years, the UO economy is broken, probably beyond repair. Your best bet to buy one (without buying gold) is to build up a character farm something like Fan Dancers hoping for a good drop while getting decent gold (bring bags of sending with extra powders) or get with a good group and farm the Roof.

I am not sure if they are still selling for much, but, early on I was selling even drops for a decent amount.

gggghhhh0987 · December 21

I suspect you (Grimbeard) and Pawain are automated reply AI bots.

gggghhhh0987 · December 21

NuSair said:

Depends on what shard you are on.

But, realistically no. With RMT, duping, and a lack of enforcement though the years, the UO economy is broken, probably beyond repair. Your best bet to buy one (without buying gold) is to build up a character farm something like Fan Dancers hoping for a good drop while getting decent gold (bring bags of sending with extra powders) or get with a good group and farm the Roof.

I am not sure if they are still selling for much, but, early on I was selling even drops for a decent amount.

Even when there are no events, if you go to a champion to farm skill scrolls, red-named players will immediately raid the champion. How can you make money?

Victim_Of_Siege · December 21

gggghhhh0987 said:

I suspect you (Grimbeard) and Pawain are automated reply AI bots.

No, they're real life assho, err, i mean people. I even have them friended on FB. At least I think i do . . .

keven2002 · December 22

gggghhhh0987 said:

Pawain said:

Since I have no interest in the hidden chests I assumed that is where the other color dragons also came from.

Now that I know that only matriarch and chests have 83 and 84. All those other color dragons running around are from Nest Maps which yall are here claiming that it is too difficult to get mature eggs from them.

I can see why the devs are like they are. Yall saying the nests don't give mature eggs and they are all over the game!!! I'd call BS on this also.

Call it what it is, yall are posting because you expect the drop rate to be where you play an hour you get a rare prize. What about players who can play 6 to 10 hours a day? They should be getting 10 rare items a day?

You are not posting about anything broken, you just want the item you want to be not rare.

The devs have to balance a game with a diverse player base. Players have different skills, different styles of play, different physical abilities, and stubborn players who still wear the Mage suit on the clean up vendor and use EVs, and many other considerations.

I don't care about or focus on the rarity of items; all I know is that for the past two weeks I've been playing for 5-7 hours every day, using a character with 5000 luck points to farm Dragon Nest and Dragon Queen too , and the result is still the same: I haven't gotten a single mature egg of any color. Now I'm thinking of praising this server and game every day, just like you, so maybe I'll have a chance to get a mature egg. And You also mentioned that players riding dragon mounts are everywhere in the city, but you didn't say that some of them whom bought them with in-game currency or real money. At least I bought mine with in-game currency.

I have to agree.

First clarifying point is that "all those color dragons running around" isn't really a ton. There are by far 2-3x more blue/purple dragons out there compared to the other colors. The botted matriarch eggs are way more prevalent than other colors. Considering the mature eggs have been out 2 months now, I don't think there are many other colors at all.

I've gone back and forth on the drop rate. My initial thought is that I do think it's too low considering all the different colors and wrestling ranges, but I guess it would be no different than trying to get a cameo from the roof... some people just seem to be luckier than others.

That said, that's when I go back to thinking the drop rate needs to change because even when talking about the roof; the drop rate isn't too bad for a general drop (it might just not be a cameo). Doom is the same way but there is that guarantee drop system that after you build X points a drop is forced... I think that is how the eggs should be since that's pretty much what this game has turned into for almost everything else.

I have shifted over to doing chests (really out of boredom) and I've gotten 4 effigies in probably around 20-30 hours of dungeon crawling and no mature eggs yet. That just seems a bit backwards to me... I'd think that I'd probably should have gotten at 2 (half the amount of effigies) in that time period.

Pawain · December 22

Effigies are not so rare. A set is on LS VS for 100M.

So I don't have to do chests, yay.

keven2002 · December 22

Pawain said:

Effigies are not so rare. A set is on LS VS for 100M.

So I don't have to do chests, yay.

They are shard bound though so you will need to buy them on whatever shard you are looking to display them. Just an FYI.

KroDuK · December 25

NuSair said:

Depends on what shard you are on.

But, realistically no. With RMT, duping, and a lack of enforcement though the years, the UO economy is broken, probably beyond repair.

All what u are mentionning here has been under Mesanna controll since ~15 yrs..

To fix that.. would be VERY easy.. they have all the tools.. instead she went for a free labor force control by an iron hand.. limiting the profit EA can make while killing the incredible potential of the game with the other hand.

Cuz yeah she was also producer.. not only the head of the affiliates program.. recently she puts her mini-me as producer.. same old.

dara · December 26

I have got two eggs off matriarch, same acc diff toons. One an archer the other a mage. Zero luck on both

KroDuK · December 26

dara said:

I have got two eggs off matriarch, same acc diff toons. One an archer the other a mage. Zero luck on both

Note the last sentence.

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edit: https://forum.uo.com/discussion/comment/125359/#Comment_125359

PS: In my book you are bragging for being top tier mindless afk zergs sitting at the bank while usually being fully multibox automated, with no idea of how the game really works.

Edit2: to be clear.. you are OFF TOPIC.

Mordeed · December 26

I'm wondering , to manage expectations what percentage of players that are regularly doing activities that have a chance to give a mature egg will end the event with at least one ? 5% , 20% ?
Are they intended for power gamers or a blessed few who get extremely lucky?
And when the event ends will the drop rate chance increase?

Now, I get it. They are really rare, and just because we really want one doesn't mean the game is going to hand them out like cookies but ........

I've done at least 2hrs a day almost every day since the event began with 2600 luck . A mix of nests , chests and matriarchs and no mature egg yet.

My hope is that after the event the pet will be available via an in-game mechanic like Tritons or tameable like the Umbrascale Ascendant

KroDuK · December 26

Mordeed said:

And when the event ends will the drop rate chance increase?

They just hvn't learned from past mistake (It's even worst this time around)
The supply is gonna spiral.

Also, implementing such rare item during one of those events.. from day 1 it's an insane bribe for stuff lke parking as many bots as u can on some zone.. to make it rain with BIS.. Is such a brutal 180.. The lead designer need to learn one or two things here.. Very obvious stuff.. soften the corner a little..

You can tell the last remaining dev playing UO on prodo is a tamer.. They have soo much stuff to do and things to farm outside heretic event.. so much love goes into that template.. imagine if that person would play on CC instead of EC.. UO could be on the right path.

If you wonder why it's worst this time around.. cuz in the past 95% of the time someone would get an artifact from gauntlet, most of wich were not an automatic BIS (when it release)
The entire room would know.. and at least could rejoice, gain some movitation, take a break, etc..
It would be way more sane.

Venom · December 27

Finally got a mature egg from a nest after 157 massive maps. I have 3,000 + luck, didn't have the additional luck from sculpture+ clock active when I dug up and opened the nest.

I've personally never had much luck with the RNG in this game.

Even with the low drop rate, over time more and more eggs will appear and the prices will fall. Looking at the price drop between launch and now, it's gone way down.

There is a hard balance between rarity and making something accessible. I'm not sure the right balance. On Catskills, there does seem to be a good % of people riding the new dragons.

azuldemogogu · December 27

This may be all irrelevant but here is what Ive done the last week and popping 1000s of chests. Also, I go to dungeons that are not actively invaded so something like Blood dungeon with no horde is just a few imps to contend with and there’s still tons of chests.

1. 0-150 - This luck range seemed to get me the most arties. Usually only 2 but I could easily pop 3 to 4 chests in a row and every now and then 3 would drop. Also, not terrible for imbuing regs in the restock chest.

2. 200-400 - This seemed to get me the most imbuing ingredients

3.500+ up to about ~3500 with luck statues + popping in felucca - Still no mature egg but I don’t seem to get as many arties and imbuing ingredients. However, I would pop a few chests with 4 arties but typically in an hour of popping I can have 20-25 pts with low luck as opposed to about 10-15 with 3k luck. Plus I have a ton more imbuing ingredients.

I am going to just run low to no luck from now on. It seems luck only has the biggest effect on sometimes giving you 4 arties when that chest pops up.

I don’t think it is critical to have high luck. I wanted to test this after reading tons of post with people talking about getting an egg or knowing someone who got an egg even though having no luck.

According to the devs, high luck and doing a massive felucca map should drop a mature egg with best odds.

gggghhhh0987 · 1:27AM

I just want to ask if it's possible to get a mature egg with a free Eternal Journey account? My character with 5000 luck gear is from a free Eternal Journey account, and I mainly use this free account's 5000 luck gear character to farm Dragon Nests (I've farmed over a hundred massive Dragon Nest maps with this account, but haven't gotten a single mature egg of any color). My paid main account is mainly used for farming Dragon Queens. Has anyone managed to get a mature egg using only a free Eternal Journey account? If someone has successfully gotten a mature egg with a free account, please share this with me. Because if the free account can't get mature eggs, I'll immediately switch to my paid main account to continue farming Dragon Nests.

Grimbeard · 1:46AM

gggghhhh0987 said:

I just want to ask if it's possible to get a mature egg with a free Eternal Journey account? My character with 5000 luck gear is from a free Eternal Journey account, and I mainly use this free account's 5000 luck gear character to farm Dragon Nests (I've farmed over a hundred massive Dragon Nest maps with this account, but haven't gotten a single mature egg of any color). My paid main account is mainly used for farming Dragon Queens. Has anyone managed to get a mature egg using only a free Eternal Journey account? If someone has successfully gotten a mature egg with a free account, please share this with me. Because if the free account can't get mature eggs, I'll immediately switch to my paid main account to continue farming Dragon Nests.

You're getting veterans status luck from a luck statue on a free account..

gggghhhh0987 · 2:06AM

Grimbeard said:

gggghhhh0987 said:

I just want to ask if it's possible to get a mature egg with a free Eternal Journey account? My character with 5000 luck gear is from a free Eternal Journey account, and I mainly use this free account's 5000 luck gear character to farm Dragon Nests (I've farmed over a hundred massive Dragon Nest maps with this account, but haven't gotten a single mature egg of any color). My paid main account is mainly used for farming Dragon Queens. Has anyone managed to get a mature egg using only a free Eternal Journey account? If someone has successfully gotten a mature egg with a free account, please share this with me. Because if the free account can't get mature eggs, I'll immediately switch to my paid main account to continue farming Dragon Nests.

You're getting veterans status luck from a luck statue on a free account..

?

I don't understand your language , You're now rambling incoherently and giving irrelevant answers again. I just was asking if anyone else had managed to get mature dragon eggs using only a free account, not asked how to boost my luck stat on a free account.

Grimbeard · 2:11AM

No way to get 5k without luck statue

gggghhhh0987 · 2:20AM

The free account character with 5000 luck points that I mentioned earlier certainly includes the bonuses from the clock and the lucky statue (3090+2000). However, I wasn't asking how to increase luck points; I was asking if anyone has managed to get mature eggs using only a free account. Please read my question carefully before replying. I realize you're a completely only giving irrelevant answer and incoherent AI bot with automatic reply.

Victim_Of_Siege · 8:53AM

Grimbeard said:

No way to get 5k without luck statue

Luck statues can 100% be used by EJ if they're in their pack.

KroDuK · 11:07AM

@gggghhhh0987 I highly doubt EJ couldn't get the mature eggs.. but if u don't wanna take the chance, can you do a character on your main account just to dig up?

With the constellation u don't even need carto to dig up since u can legit be on top, knowing where it is. The luck roll from the chests is apply by the person digging it. Keep doing what u do but just gate or bracelet of binding your main sitting at the bank waiting to aut... to hunt the matriarch?

Grimbeard · 1:27PM

Victim_Of_Siege said:

Grimbeard said:

No way to get 5k without luck statue

Luck statues can 100% be used by EJ if they're in their pack.

But would it give them 10 years worth if that's how old the account was when it went EJ? If so that's broken

KroDuK · 1:54PM

Grimbeard said:

Victim_Of_Siege said:

Grimbeard said:

No way to get 5k without luck statue

Luck statues can 100% be used by EJ if they're in their pack.

But would it give them 10 years worth if that's how old the account was when it went EJ? If so that's broken

Ironically this is something i've told on a french forum reading the news of the F2P option for UO.. back in ~2017??

I was like.. i'm lost.. other than losing money from existing players.. what are they trying to accomplish?
Me installing.. remembering my password.. logging on my shard next to an empty plot (where my house was) recalling to the bank.. I cannot get anything in my bankbox.. my stuff were in bags.. reading general chat seeing gold sellers sites.. recalling at brit.. empty.. luna empty.. to that point what are they expecting really?

I was still blind on the matter.. cuz part 2 was not out yet.

Then I bring a couple point like u just did that was broken.. ~2 weeks later they were changing something about the bank u could withdraw items if u had less thsn ~15 or something..

But this "bad" move was address with heretic event.. sub as much as u can!!

The goal is... Just deal with it..
The only reason u'd sub is to not get ban or more houses.. Mesanna was clear on that on her post about third party war.. non sub.. beware.. the bribe has limits. It was a war on free loader that did not get the memo.. she did one.

Do you really think people bragging about 30-50 accounts were all sub? I mean c'mon now. If they are it's during those events to be safe to do what they do. It's an oiled wheel.

KroDuK · 4:57PM

@Grimbeard

Just to open those a bit more:

KroDuK said:

Keep doing what u do but just gate or bracelet of binding your main sitting at the bank waiting to aut... to hunt the matriarch?

re-read his first message but do not focus on what u did.. but what HE said.. his MAIN is sub and bank sitting farming matriarch while he control EJ on nest.

You need advance class to understand..

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