General question about animal training (especially special moves)
After 3 broken pets... I come here with my tail tucked between my legs.
There is one thing that escapes me... we're offered all those nice options, and some combos apparently...on this last one I aimed for this special move which included the training for bleed, paralyse and armor ignore, it said the three were a prerequisite to train it, so here I go trying to add the 3 in, well it stopped after 2, now I'm locked out again of all other options. So not only I'm locked out of the wrestling mastery I was going for, I can't have the combo and now its only using one of all his skills in "lore and knowledge" aka broken. Like it can't even fight a mud golem at 4 slots... that bad broken. If I carry 4 regular untrained one slot pet, the thing dies 5 times faster... this is not supposed to work like this, is it?
Why present the combo to us if its going to break our pet? Seems a bit cruel. We get warnings for everything else... All this time, all this money for scrolls wasted... so my question is:
What is the limit? Why is it not on taming guides I read, why does everyone tell me they have "broken" pets too and still have not any idea how it works?
I know the "perfect build guides" are there.. but what if we want to try other options?
Right now 100% risk of breaking the pet for me.
is it the number of skills, the number of elements in lore and knowledge?
If at least I'd know the actual limits, I could think differently. It should not be so easy and so common to completely break pets with thousands of hours into them (counting the time/money to get the scrolls). I meet tamers every single day that tell me they've broken multiple some dozens of pet.
And now the power scrolls can't be bought anymore (a simple wrestling powerscroll can go 50 millions now). Was this really thought through?
Such a nice and fun system, and now only the rich can afford it...
With my best broken pet... I can maybe farm 100k an hour... do you know how many hours this is for one scroll to perhaps get a chance to get a better pet ? to perhaps get a better pet after I sunk everything I had into 2 pets...
It has to make sense for it to remain fun, and not just feel like I should have built a dexxer and kill everything in one-two hit like many players I see passing me by.
I don't mind if I don't have the best pet... but I do mind wasting all this time for an error that could be prevented by better tooltips or clear explanations.
Is there hope for a revamp that could fix those previously broken pets?
There is one thing that escapes me... we're offered all those nice options, and some combos apparently...on this last one I aimed for this special move which included the training for bleed, paralyse and armor ignore, it said the three were a prerequisite to train it, so here I go trying to add the 3 in, well it stopped after 2, now I'm locked out again of all other options. So not only I'm locked out of the wrestling mastery I was going for, I can't have the combo and now its only using one of all his skills in "lore and knowledge" aka broken. Like it can't even fight a mud golem at 4 slots... that bad broken. If I carry 4 regular untrained one slot pet, the thing dies 5 times faster... this is not supposed to work like this, is it?
Why present the combo to us if its going to break our pet? Seems a bit cruel. We get warnings for everything else... All this time, all this money for scrolls wasted... so my question is:
What is the limit? Why is it not on taming guides I read, why does everyone tell me they have "broken" pets too and still have not any idea how it works?
I know the "perfect build guides" are there.. but what if we want to try other options?
Right now 100% risk of breaking the pet for me.
is it the number of skills, the number of elements in lore and knowledge?
If at least I'd know the actual limits, I could think differently. It should not be so easy and so common to completely break pets with thousands of hours into them (counting the time/money to get the scrolls). I meet tamers every single day that tell me they've broken multiple some dozens of pet.
And now the power scrolls can't be bought anymore (a simple wrestling powerscroll can go 50 millions now). Was this really thought through?
Such a nice and fun system, and now only the rich can afford it...
With my best broken pet... I can maybe farm 100k an hour... do you know how many hours this is for one scroll to perhaps get a chance to get a better pet ? to perhaps get a better pet after I sunk everything I had into 2 pets...
It has to make sense for it to remain fun, and not just feel like I should have built a dexxer and kill everything in one-two hit like many players I see passing me by.
I don't mind if I don't have the best pet... but I do mind wasting all this time for an error that could be prevented by better tooltips or clear explanations.
Is there hope for a revamp that could fix those previously broken pets?
Comments
When it said prerequisite were required they are already in the choice.
They are just mentioned to explain why that choice requires so many points and the extra skills you get when you hit "train".
You don't actually have to add them before hand.
And I've seen so many taming guides... this is why people rely so much on "builds" yet I still meet people everyday who "break" pets while trying something else. Nobody wants to slap the same build on all pets I hope or it makes the whole system irrelevant.
This is supposed to be a fun system and I agree it is nice to have so much freedom with it, I would not say broken if it was only imperfect or lacking because of my skill choice.
When I say broken it is broken... it just won't train something, the skill is not going up or being used at all... or it does for a while then stops, or reverses even. I think the fun part is obscured by that looming doubt that it will simply not work because of the design not giving you proper limits. It just feels unfair and yes ruins the final part where you enjoy your hard labor.
I love the new system btw, its amazing apart from that.
You may only select a total of Three options, two from the first 3 categories shown here and one from the magical abilities list. Select in the order shown below, magical ability last. Keep in mind many pets already have a special ability, which cannot be overwritten. This reduces your choices.
https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/skills/animal-taming/animal-training/
You misread. Piercing gives the pet those abilities, they are not prerequisites.
https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/skills/animal-taming/animal-training-abilities/
They are weighted. Moves are less so you can get 2.
You can always put a magic last.
Page is fine. It's like reading a math textbook. Because it is all math.