Paladin build

Hi, I'm trying to fix up my old paladin to get it usable in todays game. atm I'm looking at 

120  Sword
120  Tactics 
120  Bushido 
120  Parry 
90   Chivalry   +15 glovers +15 ring
100  Resist Spells  +15 ring (if I can get a 120 scroll) 
50  Anatomy  +10 ring 

As I understand it resist is really important to reduce the effects of curse and other spells that debuff stats , and anatomy also important to buff damage output and therefore healing done through life leach. 
I don't want to use Necro as this character is a paladin. 
Anyone have a better idea? I know there was a build called a Dragoon but that one seemed to use either resist or anatomy and I would like to use both if possible 

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  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 3,339
    Mordeed said:
    Hi, I'm trying to fix up my old paladin to get it usable in todays game. atm I'm looking at 

    120  Sword
    120  Tactics 
    120  Bushido 
    120  Parry 
    90   Chivalry   +15 glovers +15 ring
    100  Resist Spells  +15 ring (if I can get a 120 scroll) 
    50  Anatomy  +10 ring 

    As I understand it resist is really important to reduce the effects of curse and other spells that debuff stats , and anatomy also important to buff damage output and therefore healing done through life leach. 
    I don't want to use Necro as this character is a paladin. 
    Anyone have a better idea? I know there was a build called a Dragoon but that one seemed to use either resist or anatomy and I would like to use both if possible 
    I run 
    120 weapon
    120 tactics 
    120 anatomy 
    120 resist
    120 healing 
    120 chiv 
    This build can do all content with ease 
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,601
    Gonna need healing to fight tough mobs.  The event leg armor was a great item for us.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • MordeedMordeed Posts: 40
    which leg armour from which event ? No legs in the Umbrascale event 

    So what about 

    120 Sword
    120 Tactics 
    100 Healing 
    120 Parry 
    90 Chivalry +15 glovers +15 ring
    100 Resist Spells +15 ring (if I can get a 120 scroll) 
    70 Anatomy +10 ring 

    Grimbeard said:
    Mordeed said:
    Hi, I'm trying to fix up my old paladin to get it usable in todays game. atm I'm looking at 

    120  Sword
    120  Tactics 
    120  Bushido 
    120  Parry 
    90   Chivalry   +15 glovers +15 ring
    100  Resist Spells  +15 ring (if I can get a 120 scroll) 
    50  Anatomy  +10 ring 

    As I understand it resist is really important to reduce the effects of curse and other spells that debuff stats , and anatomy also important to buff damage output and therefore healing done through life leach. 
    I don't want to use Necro as this character is a paladin. 
    Anyone have a better idea? I know there was a build called a Dragoon but that one seemed to use either resist or anatomy and I would like to use both if possible 
    I run 
    120 weapon
    120 tactics 
    120 anatomy 
    120 resist
    120 healing 
    120 chiv 
    This build can do all content with ease 

    Don't you take a crazy amount of damage without parry? 
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,716
    If you are going traditional paladin build; you don't need Bushido... in fact your parry chance is actually decreased when combined with Bushido (compared to regular parry w/o Bush).

    You could swap in Healing for Bushido and have a pretty decent build, but would need more anatomy to cure (and stronger heals). 

    It will depend on what you fight (high magery mobs or no magery mobs), but you could probably run a little lower parry (maybe 90ish) and bump up anatomy. If you use the +15 healing legs that allows you to go 105 healing (120 total) and place that 15 in anatomy as well. Another choice here would be to swap out swords for macing. Again this is just my opinion but a paladin isn't relying on only leeches for their healing so they don't need to go swords (onslaught); they can actually go macing for stagger (eventually bringing the mob to 0 stamina) which means the melee hits coming in will be much fewer (ie don't need as much parry) and you also can use toughness for extra HP. That said, if you are sighting something like ancient liches (high casting mobs) then stagger isn't going to be as effective. 

    At the end of the day it's a different playstyle. You won't be running into a swarm of mobs, Leroy Jenkins style, but instead kind of grinding your way around so the skills might be a little different than what a Sampire has.
  • MordeedMordeed Posts: 40
    Good points, I've had this warrior since about 2000 and he took Chivalry when it came out and I've always had an interest in the crusades and templers. I realise the sampire is meta but, I don't want necro on him. There is also the thing that I have parry at 120 and don't want to drop it . I do already have 100 healing on a stone. 
    I'm thinking of this 

    120 Sword  
    120 Parry
    105 Tactics   +15 ring
    85  Anatomy  +15 ring 
    100 Bushido  or Healing 
    90 Chivalry  +15 gloves +15 ring
    100 Resist Spells

    and try both and see which I like best. For the non Bushido, pure paladin build what is the best sword to use with a shield? Im thinking broad sword and radiant simitar
  • ThalonThalon Posts: 93
    edited December 7
    Mordeed said:
    Good points, I've had this warrior since about 2000 and he took Chivalry when it came out and I've always had an interest in the crusades and templers. I realise the sampire is meta but, I don't want necro on him. There is also the thing that I have parry at 120 and don't want to drop it . I do already have 100 healing on a stone. 
    I'm thinking of this 

    120 Sword  
    120 Parry
    105 Tactics   +15 ring
    85  Anatomy  +15 ring 
    100 Bushido  or Healing 
    90 Chivalry  +15 gloves +15 ring
    100 Resist Spells

    and try both and see which I like best. For the non Bushido, pure paladin build what is the best sword to use with a shield? Im thinking broad sword and radiant simitar
    The "best" weapon depends on your stamina and the special moves you want to execute. Sounds like you want Armor Ignore on one weapon and you'll swap for Whirlwind? 

    I am confused as to why you are limiting yourself to single hand weapon and shield with a Bushido template. If you are using Bushido a Double Axe should be more effective for Champ Spawn type battles just like with Sampires. As far as the Radiant Scimitar, it has much faster swing speed than the Double Axe, doesn't do as much damage and may have leeching powers capped by lower swing speed. Might work for some, but a Double Axe will typically out perform a Radiant Scimitar unless your character has very low Stamina.

    Regarding choosing between Healing or Bushido as the 5th slot in your template... I rotate Bushido, Healing and Necromacy using Soulstones depending on what I'm fighting:
    - Healing: very tanky with weapon shield combo, but can takes longer to kill big things
    - Bushido: good if you have life leech on your weapon it works, don't rely on Close Wounds
    - Necromacy: only used for Vampric Embrace you said you are skipping Necro anyway

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  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,716
    @Mordeed - You can be fine with any variation for a warrior so I would probably suggest just trying things out to see what you like best. 

    If you are going to use Bushido and use a shield; you are hurting your parry chances (Bushido works better with 2 handed weaps). So if you are looking to use 1 handed weaps and a shield (gives you extra slots for stats using a shield), I would not keep Bushido and I'd go healing instead. 

    That said, you can try to use Bushido and not use healing skill (kind of like a Dragoon build) but you will need to focus on 1) having leech life on your weapon 2) maximize damage output (more damage = more leeching) 3) try for 3/6 casting so that you can cast your chiv spells to cure/heal in a pinch.

    Like I said, you will likely need to play around with it to see what you like best.
  • MordeedMordeed Posts: 40
    Sorry I probably wrote that wrong, I ofc would use double axe when using Bushido and broadsword/shield with healing. I wanted to make it so bushido/healing where interchangable while I see what I like best or for different encounters 
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,716
    Yes you can swap the 2 skills around and probably be ok.

    The only call out from me about that would be that once you kind of figure out your suit and start to "fine-tune" things, swapping between the 2 skills likely will remove some max stats from you.

    Example: You go with a shield that has +4str & 1FC; when you are using a double axe (you obv don't get that stat) you would likely be at 146str instead of 150 and cast slower (ie heal/cure slower). That means you might need to carry some orange/purple leaves and more pots while using confidence/evasion more.

    These things aren't the end of the world issues but you would just need to be more mindful of what you are fighting and what your setup is for each time, rather than just log on and go (on my 150str Sampire I don't carry purple/orange leaves bc I don't need them). I'm so used to hitting my evasion macro when I see my health bar get low that I've even tried to do that on my archer (and died when it didn't work).
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