Ryuuma Mount and Draconic Pet Rewards

I'm not quite understanding all the loot and rewards as it pertains to pets/mounts.

First, I want the Ryuuma but I'm not certain if my character can use it. Is this an ethereal mount? I've read some stuff that leads me to believe that if I accept that reward that it will give me an egg that will hatch into a pet?? Then what? It says I use an Orb of ethereal transcendence on the egg and it will turn it into an ethereal mount.

Can anyone verify the process to get a Ryuuma ethereal mount? Does the ethereal mount still have 12% damage reduction bonus? Does the egg have a timer before it hatches or do I open the egg? If it hatches will it forever be a pet and I can't turn it into a ethereal mount? It doesn't say that GM taming is required. Can someone verify how that works if I'm not a tamer? If I keep it as a pet can I train it even without taming or does it work kinda like bushido and lesser hiryu?

Am I right in thinking that other dragon mounts/pets come in egg form from hidden chests and can be turned into ethereal mounts with the orb using it on the egg? Except that these don't have 12% dmg reduction. 

What is the dormant umbrascale egg?

Thanks for any clarification anyone can provide.

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  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 3,267
    I'm not quite understanding all the loot and rewards as it pertains to pets/mounts.

    First, I want the Ryuuma but I'm not certain if my character can use it. Is this an ethereal mount? I've read some stuff that leads me to believe that if I accept that reward that it will give me an egg that will hatch into a pet?? Then what? It says I use an Orb of ethereal transcendence on the egg and it will turn it into an ethereal mount.

    Can anyone verify the process to get a Ryuuma ethereal mount? Does the ethereal mount still have 12% damage reduction bonus? Does the egg have a timer before it hatches or do I open the egg? If it hatches will it forever be a pet and I can't turn it into a ethereal mount? It doesn't say that GM taming is required. Can someone verify how that works if I'm not a tamer? If I keep it as a pet can I train it even without taming or does it work kinda like bushido and lesser hiryu?

    Am I right in thinking that other dragon mounts/pets come in egg form from hidden chests and can be turned into ethereal mounts with the orb using it on the egg? Except that these don't have 12% dmg reduction. 

    What is the dormant umbrascale egg?

    Thanks for any clarification anyone can provide.

    Test still up you can see all for yourself 
  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,614Moderator
    edited October 26
    The Ryuuma is not an ethereal mount and does not come as an egg. It is, essentially, a vanity mount with the same properties as Paroxysmus swamp dragon or Osymandias Hiryu. When purchased from the trader it is a statue which, when double clicked, becomes an instantly bonded mount. 

    The only 'egg' pet is the Juvenile Umbrascale dragon that can be an ethereal, if you use the orb of Ethereal Transcendence on the egg. 
    https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/items/vanity-mounts/
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,312
    Mariah said:
    The Ryuuma is not an ethereal mount and does not come as an egg. It is, essentially, a vanity mount with the same properties as Paroxysmus swamp dragon or Osymandias Hiryu. When purchased from the trader it is a statue which, when double clicked, becomes an instantly bonded mount. 

    The only 'egg' pet is the Juvenile Umbrascale dragon that can be an ethereal, if you use the orb of Ethereal Transcendence on the egg. 
    https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/items/vanity-mounts/
    Therefore, the Ryuuma can get killed and need to be resurrected to be used again ?
  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,614Moderator
    yes, exactly like Paroxysmus swamp dragon and Ozymandias hiryu.
    I don't actually own either of those, so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but they can be rezed by the rider with a bandage in Trammel?
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,312
    Mariah said:
    yes, exactly like Paroxysmus swamp dragon and Ozymandias hiryu.
    I don't actually own either of those, so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but they can be rezed by the rider with a bandage in Trammel?
    That would be interesting to know... no Veterinary needed ?

  • Thanks for the link. According to the link they can be rezzed without vet skill. However, it mentions the vanity pet statuettes can be turned into ethereal mounts too.
  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,614Moderator
    Yes, not all vanity pet statuettes, but certainly the ones bought from Origin store.
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,312
    Bottom line question is, though, can the Ryuuma be ressed without any Veterinary from its rider, using bandages ?
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,492
    popps said:
    Bottom line question is, though, can the Ryuuma be ressed without any Veterinary from its rider, using bandages ?
    Why didn't you test this on TC?
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 3,267
    popps said:
    Bottom line question is, though, can the Ryuuma be ressed without any Veterinary from its rider, using bandages ?
    In tram yes
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,312
    Pawain said:
    popps said:
    Bottom line question is, though, can the Ryuuma be ressed without any Veterinary from its rider, using bandages ?
    Why didn't you test this on TC?
    I did not even know this was a possibility... just read about it today when Mariah mentioned it and asking to players whether this was or not a possibility...

    And I should have left all I was doing, in real life and in the game and gone straight to the Test Server to check that out ?

    I see.... hm.... okay... 

  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,492
    edited October 26
    popps said:
    Pawain said:
    popps said:
    Bottom line question is, though, can the Ryuuma be ressed without any Veterinary from its rider, using bandages ?
    Why didn't you test this on TC?
    I did not even know this was a possibility... just read about it today when Mariah mentioned it and asking to players whether this was or not a possibility...

    And I should have left all I was doing, in real life and in the game and gone straight to the Test Server to check that out ?

    I see.... hm.... okay... 

    But you wanted someone else to stop what they are doing to answer your 8 Threads here.

    Hmmm Okay :|
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • popps said:
    Pawain said:
    popps said:
    Bottom line question is, though, can the Ryuuma be ressed without any Veterinary from its rider, using bandages ?
    Why didn't you test this on TC?
    I did not even know this was a possibility... just read about it today when Mariah mentioned it and asking to players whether this was or not a possibility...

    And I should have left all I was doing, in real life and in the game and gone straight to the Test Server to check that out ?

    I see.... hm.... okay... 

    Yet you stopped what you were doing in real life to come here and make 1337 posts. I see, hmmmm, Okay . . .
    A Goblin, a Gargoyle, and a Drow walk into a bar . . .

    Never be afraid to challenge the status quo

  • poppspopps Posts: 4,312
    Pawain said:
    popps said:
    Pawain said:
    popps said:
    Bottom line question is, though, can the Ryuuma be ressed without any Veterinary from its rider, using bandages ?
    Why didn't you test this on TC?
    I did not even know this was a possibility... just read about it today when Mariah mentioned it and asking to players whether this was or not a possibility...

    And I should have left all I was doing, in real life and in the game and gone straight to the Test Server to check that out ?

    I see.... hm.... okay... 

    But you wanted someone else to stop what they are doing to answer your 8 Threads here.

    Hmmm Okay :|

    How so ?

    Perhaps they know it already and all it takes to them is just write a few words on this official forum for all fellow UO players to read ?
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 3,267
    popps said:
    Pawain said:
    popps said:
    Pawain said:
    popps said:
    Bottom line question is, though, can the Ryuuma be ressed without any Veterinary from its rider, using bandages ?
    Why didn't you test this on TC?
    I did not even know this was a possibility... just read about it today when Mariah mentioned it and asking to players whether this was or not a possibility...

    And I should have left all I was doing, in real life and in the game and gone straight to the Test Server to check that out ?

    I see.... hm.... okay... 

    But you wanted someone else to stop what they are doing to answer your 8 Threads here.

    Hmmm Okay :|

    How so ?

    Perhaps they know it already and all it takes to them is just write a few words on this official forum for all fellow UO players to read ?
    Why are you never that person? 
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,352
    edited October 27
    You respond or you..?!!

    The 3 musketeers are even worse than the "problem" they denouncing..
    If no one answer his post he would stop.. people bring him the answers, sometimes the same answer over and over.. Can we blame him? I'm part of the problem.. he's not, imo.. guess the 3 muskies role now.


    I'd agree with Jack the UK shefferd tho.. when he said something like:"why no one from the team has spoken with him"
    Sometimes he's tagging Kyronix multiple time in the same day. (for karen stuff)
    This.. this should piss you off.. if the producer ain't coming on the forum.. he could be at blame for this.


    Sheeps..
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,312
    Grimbeard said:
    popps said:
    Pawain said:
    popps said:
    Pawain said:
    popps said:
    Bottom line question is, though, can the Ryuuma be ressed without any Veterinary from its rider, using bandages ?
    Why didn't you test this on TC?
    I did not even know this was a possibility... just read about it today when Mariah mentioned it and asking to players whether this was or not a possibility...

    And I should have left all I was doing, in real life and in the game and gone straight to the Test Server to check that out ?

    I see.... hm.... okay... 

    But you wanted someone else to stop what they are doing to answer your 8 Threads here.

    Hmmm Okay :|

    How so ?

    Perhaps they know it already and all it takes to them is just write a few words on this official forum for all fellow UO players to read ?
    Why are you never that person? 
    Well, if I do not have that knowledge I do not see how I could post about something that I do not know about...
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 3,267
    popps said:
    Grimbeard said:
    popps said:
    Pawain said:
    popps said:
    Pawain said:
    popps said:
    Bottom line question is, though, can the Ryuuma be ressed without any Veterinary from its rider, using bandages ?
    Why didn't you test this on TC?
    I did not even know this was a possibility... just read about it today when Mariah mentioned it and asking to players whether this was or not a possibility...

    And I should have left all I was doing, in real life and in the game and gone straight to the Test Server to check that out ?

    I see.... hm.... okay... 

    But you wanted someone else to stop what they are doing to answer your 8 Threads here.

    Hmmm Okay :|

    How so ?

    Perhaps they know it already and all it takes to them is just write a few words on this official forum for all fellow UO players to read ?
    Why are you never that person? 
    Well, if I do not have that knowledge I do not see how I could post about something that I do not know about...
    You have the same opportunities to go to test as any it's time for you to do your part 
  • RockoRocko Posts: 237
    A legitimate question is asked by the OP.  There were some helpful responses....then......hijacked.  Not constructive at this point.

    Do you feel the pain?
    Former content creator for UO Stratics.
  • Rocko said:
    A legitimate question is asked by the OP.  There were some helpful responses....then......hijacked.  Not constructive at this point.

    Do you feel the pain?
    Yep, about right. 

    No matter, everyone is still pretty helpful. 

    Being told to go to test center is not too rude and not super helpful but it was an idea I was not thinking about. So, if I couldn’t get the answer then that was definitely something I’d consider but I don’t know the efficiencies of the test center and it has the potential to be a waste if I go and find and test all of these answers and report back here only to have everyone say, “We know”.

    I think asking a question to the community before using the test center falls under one of these work smarter not harder ideas, plus it gets documented for other players.

    Think about UO. It literally has no real game manual. I’m pretty sure there are some macro commands that employees don’t even know what they do. The game is built around a community, inside and out. 

    I think UO is decently populated but I’d love to see it super popular again but it likely won’t ever be because it is way too advanced for most gamers. 

    Luckily, I do always have a pretty good interaction on the forums and in-game. Obviously, I am biased towards the best shard which is LS but I did start a character on Atlantic and was shocked at the people who seem to just hang out in Haven helping newbies.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,352
    edited October 28
    @azuldemogogu The things is, the player that can really help usually do not share that stuff outside of their small circle.. on a game like UO knowledge is power. (PvP players)
    Like on the forum, it was tamer like paiwan helping for tamer questions.. Just go read his take on Popps pack animal question (shadow hound)
    You can tell Paiwan does not hang with the "good" crowd in game and has bad takes/answersss.

    People helping usually the people that shouldn't help.. (mid tier players for mid answer)

    The "good" crowd rarely share outside their "good" circle. Tiny mini problems (they do not want competition).. If they were really good.. their knowledge and science test would be made public.

    This was like that 25 yrs ago and will be like that as long as human gonna have a human nature. Do your own test, soon enough they gonna come to you for answers.. This is what I would tell if the last paragraph was not a reality.. Legit could compete.

    That logic is even use by the dev team.. CC/EC/cheat clients.. VERY recently they allowed one of the cheat client to go legit with a lot of limitations as a web client. (very very little; very very very late)
    This is just not enough.. It's like giving the begin of an answer and stopping there.


    All that to say.. go hang on the third party cheaters discord for your answers.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,492
    edited 12:29AM
    @KroDuK ; you have yet to post any pet you have made.  But you are an expert.  I build my pets the same way Cah and Playerskill do.  Are you also saying they do not know how to build a pet either.

    There is a reason you build a base pet with:

    Max Stamina, Max Dexterity, Max Str, Max Intel, 370.  Max HP and Mana regen. Stamina regen that fits the pet type. Resists that fit your target.  Then put on Max damage per second.

    If you have a 5 slot pet that needs all that and you can not do it, I'm sure I made that pet and did it.
    I can show you how, there is already a guide for it probably, unless its a Flappy.

    Popps does not post for answers, he posts his wish list. He wants the game to work like he wants. 

    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,492
    edited 12:33AM
    The OPs question was asked and answered.  Popps posted what he wanted, and will give no effort to see if what he wants is already in the game or what the mechanics are.

    Yall are arguing over a mechanic that is already in the game.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,352
    edited 4:23AM
    Pawain said:
    @ KroDuK  you have yet to post any pet you have made.  But you are an expert.  I build my pets the same way Cah and Playerskill do.
    Cah.. you mean that person?

    Violet said:
    To find out jut how important strength is we have: https://www.uo-cah.com/pet-damage-calculator

    You need to account for pet damage is PvP is halved and UO rounds down when it comes to calculations.


    At 61 or 70 resists anything 238 strength or above with be doing top damage unless you find a "unicorn" 275 strength one for pvm.  From what I know of Popps he does not PvP, if he did I think there would be many other posts on this forum~

    Example of Shadow Hounds pre and post Grasping Claw in PvP:




    For the Hit Point/Resists:

    Example:

    A 400 strength, 100 tactics, 100 anatomy attacker with 100 wrestling and 100 physical damage on two different resisted shadow hounds:

    Shadow Hound A  190 hit points and 55% physical resists gets hit for 27-36
    Shadow Hound B  160 hit points and 65% physical resists gets hit for 21-28

    It would take 4 hits to for those resists on Shadow Hound B to outweigh the added hit points of Shadow Hound A.

    On the mob in question above it would be an added 140-160 damage per minute (at a 50% hit rate, for these calculations I simplified and did not include parry chance) to Shadow Hound A vs Shadow Hound B.

    There is a lot of nuance in the conversation regarding hit points and resists. There are things like environmental damage. You want enough hit points to keep the pack alive. 

    I see Pawain still has his bad takes on taming.

    Also @ popps If you have questions about our website we have a public discord you can join to ask those questions: https://discord.gg/ta26pT63qb .  We rarely read these forums unless someone DMs us to check something out, so these forums aren't the place to ask things regarding our website. If you don't have discord, you can private message us on these forums.

    This was your take:
    Pawain said:
    You sure are spending a lot of time analying pets that you would only use on the MoE gates that are not around anymore.  Or Generals from town invasions, also not around any more.  

    How long before you think they will make another object in the game that does little damage to pets and does not switch targets?  Well you will be prepared for it in 2030 I suppose.  In the 27 years of UO, we have had two of those things...

    Now go read PlayerSkill pro take.. too much for me to do a single quote:
    https://forum.uo.com/discussion/15716/question-about-shadow-hounds/p1
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,492
    edited 6:31AM
    @KroDuK ; only a fool such as yourself would bring 5 one slot pets to this event, What I said is still correct, They had a use at a couple of events, they are of no use at this one. They would ALL be dead in 5 seconds.

    You also do not understand context.

    How many 1 slot pets did you see when I invited you to Atlantic for the Matriarch?  0, yup.  I took pics did you?
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,352
    edited 7:46AM
    Pawain said:
    @ KroDuK  only a fool such as yourself would bring 5 one slot pets to this event,
    Anyone ever said otherwise?
    Stop putting words in my mouth.. to build an entire fake narrative..

    Pawain said:
    You also do not understand context.
    Or as you would say.. an entire fake context that was never mention.


    The person that talk about using a pack to an event was you.. saying it was the only content in 27 years that would have a use for a pack of shadow hound. The MoE..


    The entire point of this argument was to prove you wrong.. once more:
    Pawain said:
    @ KroDuK  you have yet to post any pet you have made.  But you are an expert.  I build my pets the same way Cah and Playerskill do.
    I was saying you're a mid tier tamer with mid tier tips.. you have very bad takes and that u brang another lie to the table, to prove me "wrong".
    Wich you totally ignored to go in fairy Paiwan mind land, by arguing with no one else but yourself!!!

    Go to bed, you need some rest.. What you are actually doing is not only a shame.. it is insane.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
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