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What is the point of buying an Anvil of Artifacts ? Anyone uses it ?

poppspopps Posts: 4,280
in General Discussions

I do not understand, honestly, the point of the Store purchaseable Anvil of Artifacts...

It costs a whopping 1,000 Sovereigns and comes with only 18 charges then, when the charges expire, they do not recharge over time but the item becomes merely deco.

Now, considering that after crafting there is the reforging step with a runic tool, and we all know how that is random and sometimes the RNG makes it waste a lot of crafted pieces before a good reforged one piece can be kept, buying and using a Store bought Anvil of Artifacts seems to me quite pointless...

The risk of spending 1,000 Sovereigns to get 18 crafted pieces of armor which then fail the reforging step is way too high...

So, I do not understand why this item was designed... for what ?

Does any player uses it and, if so, for that use ?

And if hardly or no player uses it, why isn't it changed perhaps making it have a lot more charges so that some crafted items can pass the reforging step and, most importantly, with the charges being rechargeable over time ?

I mean, if I may ask, what is the point of having an item in the Store which hardly any player is interested in, as it is now ?

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  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,296
    What are you really asking for?
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • TimStTimSt Posts: 1,963
    It is used to craft and reforge for the resists you want.  I have used it to create suits with 70 on all resists which left me with 5 imbue slots on each piece.
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,280
    edited October 21
    TimSt said:
    It is used to craft and reforge for the resists you want.  I have used it to create suits with 70 on all resists which left me with 5 imbue slots on each piece.

    Can you please explain it better ?

    Let me make an example to better clarify my perplexity.

    Step 1 - Crafting the pieces.
    I craft 18 pieces or armor using the Anvil of Artifacts with exactly the resists that I want/need.

    Step 2 - Reforging with a Runic tool to get what I need
    I use the Runic tool 18 times on the 18 pieces of armor that I made with the resists that I want/need but, because of the RNG, I end up with none of the 18 pieces of armor reforged for what I want/need that I can use, to then proceed with the further steps using powder of fortifying, imbuing and perhaps then enhace where needed/wanted. NOTE. Sometimes, when reforging, hundreds upon hundreds of reforges are needed to get the 1 reforged piece that one wants/need... how can 18 pieces crafted with an Anvil of Artifacts be of any significant help ?

    So, I am out of 1,000 Sovereigns all for nothing.

    Can you please explain to me how you could use it to craft and reforge because I fail to understand how, as the Anvil of Artifacts is as of now, with so few charges and not rechargeable, anywhere useful considered the high cost it has of 1,000 Sovereigns for a mere 18 charges.

    Thank you.
  • TimStTimSt Posts: 1,963
    1. You use the artifact to craft 6 pieces with the max possible resists you get from crafting.
    2. You use the artifact at the same time as you use the runic tool to reforge to get your armor  to the 70 resists.
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,280
    edited October 21
    TimSt said:
    1. You use the artifact to craft 6 pieces with the max possible resists you get from crafting.
    2. You use the artifact at the same time as you use the runic tool to reforge to get your armor  to the 70 resists.
    Sorry, I still fail to understand... what if the reforges do not get me the properties I want on those 6 pieces ?

    For example, say that I want to reforge for 150 Luck... those 6 pieces I got using charges with the Anvil of Artifacts, when reforged, come with 100, 110, 120, 130 and 140 Luck, none of them comes with the 150 Luck I want. Or, even if I get an item with 150 Luck it then gets reforged with also the durability property or additional resists that I do not want/need, or some other uninteresting property for me which would reduce the number of additional imbuable properties on that item... meaning, that it is an item for me to be scrapped, not kept... yet, I spent charges of an expansive Anvil of Artifacts to ge the right resists before reforging on that now scrapped item, because of a failed reforge...

    How exactly would I have then well spent my money using charges of an Anvil of Artifacts that cost 1,000 Sovereigns to buy ?

    I am sorry, but I honestly cannot see the conveniency of spending real money on this item... if you see any, I would like to understand which it is because I am having a hard time to see it.

    Thank you for the kind help.

  • TimStTimSt Posts: 1,963
    You use the Anvil of Artifacts only if you are interested in resists and keeping as many imbue slots open as possible open.  If you are only interested in non-resists properties then you do not use the anvil of artifacts during any step.
  • IniquityIniquity Posts: 46
    And if you do its a gamble, I have done it when I needed the perfect resist piece, usually the last piece in a suit.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,296
    edited October 21
    Iniquity said:
    And if you do its a gamble, I have done it when I needed the perfect resist piece, usually the last piece in a suit.
    This is the thing, he wants rechargeable anvil or a lower fee for each token.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,429
    If the made it rechargeable it would take 5 Nexus Core.   :D  
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,296
    edited October 21
    He totally understood the anvil of artifacts, he just do not agree with the $-$ Gamble $-$.

    Consider the "P2W" aspect.. He's blinded by the forest and missing the trees.


    They need to do a real EA front store and promote it.. selling gold and everything RMT'ers does.. while..
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,280
    KroDuK said:
    He totally understood the anvil of artifacts, he just do not agree with the $-$ Gamble $-$.

    Consider the "P2W" aspect.. He's blinded by the forest and missing the trees.


    They need to do a real EA front store and promote it.. selling gold and everything RMT'ers does.. while..
    No, I do not understand it.

    An item that cost 1,000 Sovereigns and only comes with 18 charges which can easily get wasted all for nothing if the reforging RNG does not yield any keeping piece of armor ?

    No thanks, to my opinion it is only a waste of real money.

    And since I consider it a waste of money, and quite one too, I was wondering if there was any UO player out there who actually used it and, if so, why...

    For me, it is a pointless item to be used with the reforging RNG being so much unpredictable.

  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,296
    popps said:
    An item that cost 1,000 Sovereigns and only comes with 18 charges which can easily get wasted all for nothing if the reforging RNG does not yield any keeping piece of armor ?
    Without this element, people would cry this is P2W!!
    Now, you are the proof of it.. some won't see it cuz it's a gamble.. wich make it even more "P2W" just less tempting for some.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • CovenantXCovenantX Posts: 1,081
    edited October 21
    popps said:
    No, I do not understand it.

    An item that cost 1,000 Sovereigns and only comes with 18 charges which can easily get wasted all for nothing if the reforging RNG does not yield any keeping piece of armor ?

    No thanks, to my opinion it is only a waste of real money.

    And since I consider it a waste of money, and quite one too, I was wondering if there was any UO player out there who actually used it and, if so, why...

    For me, it is a pointless item to be used with the reforging RNG being so much unpredictable.

       This is accurate.   -too much RNG if you're reforging + enhancing to make it worth buying.
     If you're not reforging, then it might save some time. 

       I do remember suggesting on UOStratics that we should be able to allocate the bonuses resistances from the Exceptional & Armslore bonuses to armor ourselves, but it was only if you had 120 crafting skill +100 armslore.   There is no difference between a 100.0 & 120.0 exceptional item, that was my rationale.

    just for clarity, when I cite UOstratics, it's because I basically haven't posted there since this forum opened... aside from a couple item auctions, cause stratics had (maybe still has?) more traffic for that type of thing.
    Remove or change casting focus & poison immunity it reduces the need for "Player Skill" it's garbage. rant2 Bring timing back and eliminate chance in pvp!

  • poppspopps Posts: 4,280
    KroDuK said:
    popps said:
    An item that cost 1,000 Sovereigns and only comes with 18 charges which can easily get wasted all for nothing if the reforging RNG does not yield any keeping piece of armor ?
    Without this element, people would cry this is P2W!!
    Now, you are the proof of it.. some won't see it cuz it's a gamble.. wich make it even more "P2W" just less tempting for some.
    The way that I see it, is that 1,000 Sovereigns is a price too high for just 18 charges given the unpredictability of the RNG when reforging which can very easily result in money getting wasted all for nothing if one gets unwanted/useless reforges...

    No thanks, this Store item could be of interest to me but only if it came with more charges and if the charges were rechargeable over time so as to account for the reforging RNG unpredictability.

    As it is, I can find no reasons to spend my money for it... I made this thread just because I have so little interest in this item "as it is" (even though I would love to be able to use it if it was different, with more charges and rechargeable), that I was curious to see if there were other UO players who, instead, actually spent their money to buy it and used it... and, if so, why did they see any valid reasons to buy and use it because, really, I cannot find any as it is now...
  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,120
    let me cut through the vast wall of text

    he does not have one, wont buy one, wont learn

    can you make him a suit for free

    that about right?
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,296
    edited October 22
     :D


    The problem with such items it's the timing.
    Back then, it would have been golden.. now.. you pretty much overcap everything by a lot, without even trying.

    I'm trying to think about a single good use for this.. (hvn't played long with the actual new heretic meta) The only use I can come out for this would be a luck set? To make sure I overcap the good stuff, like fire..?

    Pretty sure, the last piece intended design went obsolete after their first event.
    Am I wrong?

    On paper something like this anvil is priceless.. was..?!

    Why would you buy a scalpel when you have a baseball bat?
    Hvn't made a set since before SA launch but yeah.. release in 2020 and obsolete in 2021?
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
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