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The fatigue is real.

usernameusername Posts: 1,184
edited October 9 in General Discussions
I've been preaching about it for years now: these limited time grinds have fatigued many people and have caused them to quit, and I'm seeing it more and more these days. This is the exact reason I've scaled back and have closed accounts personally... I don't have time to farm this limited time gear for multiple accounts, so what's the point.

Now it's worse and we have something like this:

Life ToT/Event ➤ NL ToT/Event ➤ Live ToT/Event

With little (or no?) pause in between. We're entering the holiday season, where people are a bit busier than usual, and not only do we have the holiday content but on top of that we also have a limited time grind until Feb.

People need time to breathe.



This is just the most recent example I have seen (from one of the fan forums) but I can't disagree with their sentiment: this feels like too much for limited content/rewards. Despite this poster's experience was on NL, I had the similar on the town invasions last cycle: I did 2-3 spawns EVERY DAY for the duration and STILL didn't get 1 every boss drop. I didn't even have time or a chance to consider doing the chests. Furthermore, I don't know anyone personally that did get 1 of everything from the boss, and a few people I know started doing it 3-6 times a day (doing multiple shards cities). That's not right.

Have you ever considered a change to permanent content? It was cited early on that these temporary ToTs/events were a stop-gap to allow production of New Legacy. Well, New Legacy is completing it's first year so why are we still doing these temporary ToTs/events? Or, is this grind fatigue cycle permanent @Kyronix ;@Parallax ?

"UO feels like a full time job" Wonder why the bots are out of control?
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  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 3,221
    I've played less than an hour a day each event and gotten everything I wanted for 3 account 
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,346
    That's the first thing I said, Too much at once. And some of them are connected. You use items from this part to do that part. I doubt I'll be doing the Halloween or Artisan stuff this year. Krampus?  Take a number.

    It's like showing an alcoholic a bottle of beer each morning, here it is but you shouldn't drink it.

    Life on hold until February.   :D


    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,256
    I agree, there needs to be some rest in between Events.

    I posted about this in September https://forum.uo.com/discussion/comment/124513/#Comment_124513 but unfortunately, here we go, with yet another grind to do and it becomes worse this time of the year with the Halloween content, Krampus, the Artisans' Festival...

    Personally, I do not like at all this "back-to-back" grind intensive Events, too much time demanding for me. Besides, my opinion is that the Events can be felt as something special when they come once in a while, occasionally... when they are run all the time, back-to-back one from another, I feel that they loose, at least for me, that feeling of being something fun to do and become more like something I would have to do if I did not want to miss out the special items offered...

    I could possibly agree with "back-to-back" Event if the items offered as rewards were mostly "come back" items and maybe only 1 or 2 new ones so that the time necessary to spend in the Event would be reasonably limited, just for those scarce few new items being offered.
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,256
    Grimbeard said:
    I've played less than an hour a day each event and gotten everything I wanted for 3 account 

    Did you do the Town Time commanders from the start of the Event when killing them granted a good decent number of artifact drops ?
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 3,221
    I don't play NL 
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,346
    Is that a post from Stranger?  He is doing that all over the place.   :D  But, im sure the feeling is real.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,346
    edited October 9
    Even tho I am fluent in gibberish I can not decipher a certain posters post.  I think his former life was a priest in a catholic church, he uses terms from the 1500s a lot. Popps wall of text, I didn't read.


    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • KyronixKyronix Posts: 1,235Dev
    As part of our 2026 planning our goal is to find a better balance between updating permanent systems vs limited time events.  Our limited time events will continue to be just as engaging, with an emphasis on a more cohesive storyline for players to follow throughout the course of the year.  In addition to that we are looking at updating several permanent content clusters with our new themes that are coming next year.  Thanks for the thoughtful feedback!
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,228
    edited October 10
    I was about to say:"Calico Jack Theme Pack has pretty much been announce for 2026"
    I was also thinking Sims Pets, then I realised; no way they can produce 2 new theme pack in a single year + prodo + NL + CC update (this one, was supposed to land past summer).. right?

    Must be related with what they've already produce on NL.. anyone playing NL can help guessing the new themes?
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,346
    edited October 10
    @Kyronix
    Its nice to see that we are complaining about too much fun content.  I am strapped in . LETS GO! B)

    THANK YOU! <3

    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,228
    edited October 10
                           
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    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • LeBaitonLeBaiton Posts: 72
    edited October 10
    I dig t-maps. Little mini-challenges. Love doing them. Love it even more when I find upgraded t-maps in the chests I dig up.

    I got so many t-maps during the Juka city event from the hidden chests, I'm not even halfway digging them all up, and here we go again.

    I need more Davies' Lockers...
    But I say that in a good way...
    Because I love t-maps...
  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,581Moderator
    oh, that's something I hadn't thought of! 
    I can now confirm, dragon maps can go in a Davies Locker


  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,118
    I can confirm UO fatigue

    I just could not face the last event

    however, this looks interesting

    I was hoping there would be maps similar to the thanksgiving turkey events from the past, they were amazing, with pieces of the maps or whole maps and you had to find the nests

    looks to be different, but I like the rewards in this so I think I will park my C2 Hercules in my Star Citizen hanger and take a look at this........
  • vortexvortex Posts: 267
    popps said:
    Grimbeard said:
    I've played less than an hour a day each event and gotten everything I wanted for 3 account 

    Did you do the Town Time commanders from the start of the Event when killing them granted a good decent number of artifact drops ?
    He doesn't answer just asks or complains...

  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,346
    edited October 10
    @username ; here is the updated plans. https://uo.com/2025/10/10/publish-121-ww-deployment-plan/
    There will be no breaks until morale improves!!! >:)

    They gonna dig into VS for you.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • RockoRocko Posts: 225
    I have considered this question since first seeing the OP.  I have played this game off and on since a few months after launch.  I clearly have not played non-stop as some have...or least I have not subbed non-stop since launch. 

    MMO's must have grind.  Staying with an MMO for 28 years is also a grind.  Living with the ups and downs of an MMO is also a grind.

    We escape the RL grind to MMO grind.  It is the reality.  Which do you prefer? 

    I prefer the MMO grind as it keeps my RL grind a little more sane.

    Having said that, grinding for items and the FOMO that consumes that pursuit is not my jam: playing the game is my jam.
    Former content creator for UO Stratics.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,228
    edited 4:37AM
    Rocko said:
    Having said that, grinding for items and the FOMO that consumes that pursuit is not my jam: playing the game is my jam.
    Totally agree with that statement, but when u see the FOMO those heretic events bring.
    You'd be dumb to ignore it. Game Breaker items. Temporary event with Best in Slots heresy on a sandbox.

    Then when u participate in one of those events.. All u see is Sampies with X garg thrower on their back on Trammel. You call someone out and he puts one of his thrower on you.
    You go participate in Felucca, you realise ~10 out of the ~13 characters on the zone are fully automated sampies, with 2-3 red sitting and chassing people out of the zone..

    ~4 days later, after you earn some of the heresy items from the events and can now stand your ground.. u decide to pass on the offensive and clear some of the bots.

    Instead of having ~10 sampies fully automated farming on their own with 2-3 reds protecting them, you now have 3 sampies, each, trail blazing 3-4 more sampies (all blue characters doing the PvP bot train).


    All that to say good comment about PLAYING, cuz the grind is one thing.. but the CONDITION and TERMS of said grind is another.


    That heretic event, after playing it for ~10 days, I was fed up and stopped playing UO since.. cuz of said conditons/terms. The fully automated botsss are actively promoted during those heretic bribe event.

    UO fatigue or BS fatigue?
    You don't have to be playing the game.. only botting those events.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • LilyGraceLilyGrace Posts: 1,156
    Kyronix said:
    As part of our 2026 planning our goal is to find a better balance between updating permanent systems vs limited time events.  Our limited time events will continue to be just as engaging, with an emphasis on a more cohesive storyline for players to follow throughout the course of the year.  In addition to that we are looking at updating several permanent content clusters with our new themes that are coming next year.  Thanks for the thoughtful feedback!
    Awesome! Content clusters sound delicious!

  • Petra_FydePetra_Fyde Posts: 1,534
    Rocko said:

    Having said that, grinding for items and the FOMO that consumes that pursuit is not my jam: playing the game is my jam.
    Yes!
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,628
    I personally like the flurry of content @Kyronix so please do not listen to the nay-sayers!

    I decided to play NL and that is where my time has been spent. If the event there wasn't as good as it is (and the people are wonderful) I would likely not be playing UO right now until the new publish. That said, on NL it's been the same 10-20 people since the event started so I'm not sure how many people actually are grinding NL now. 

    So technically we've had like 2.5 months of a "break" on Prod. On top of that; the new Prod event goes until Feb... that's 3+ months to work the event. You don't NEED to grind it out the entire time. It's unfortunate that the mentality of some people is "if I can't do it or participate then the entire game should be put on hold". Sounds like those people should play a single player game where they can save and pickup where they left off.

    Maybe it's an unpopular opinion but for anyone feeling the fatigue, they should probably take a break and allow the people that are enjoying new content/rewards to keep on truckin'.
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