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The default layout of the EC is horrifying and probably chasing people away.

Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 622
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So yeah I happened to install and fire up the EC the other day and what the hell is this crap? What were they thinking?

"Yeah let's put the gameplay in a little window in the center, but still make the chat window awkwardly overlap it. We want the screen to be like 45% dead black space at a minimum. That'll save us lots of room to put two tiny red and green buff brackets. Also make the text borderline unreadable."

Bro @Kyronix dude there is no way this isn't having an outsized impact on F2P newbie churn. I know you've heard all the "we moved a tutorial door five feet to the right and retention went up 10%" game developer stories. This has to be hurting you. If I came in fresh and saw this and wasn't already financially invested I'd just close it out and go play something else.

Seriously just move shit around until it looks like something someone might play on purpose and then save that config as the default. This should take basically no time at all.

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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,135
    Wait till you see how some mobs look.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,206

    I said it a lot of times... I have tried moving away from the Classic Client to the Enhanced Client many many times, even tried to force me to accepts its graphics but it is just too much ugly for me, it makes me sick having to look at it... I have always gone back to the Classic Client...

    I would LOVE to play the Enhanced Client for its way much better handling of macros, targeting and all that stuff as compared to the Classic Client but, even if my gameplay ends up getting severely crippled remaining with the Classic Client, I just can't help it... I cannot stand looking at the Enhanced Client graphics.

    I wished it was possible to play the Enhanced Client with the Classic Client Graphics look.
  • MsScarlettMsScarlett Posts: 63
    You do realize you can adjust sizes and positions of all that right? I like the ability of adding what i need and in the places that I need them to be rather than a set location.
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,566
    MsScarlett said:
    You do realize you can adjust sizes and positions of all that right? I like the ability of adding what i need and in the places that I need them to be rather than a set location.
    I think that's the point the OP was trying to make... the game starts up like that as a default and people don't know what's possible and what's not. 

    I barely ever use EC and to this day I don't know how to log out of EC without just clicking the "X" in the top right lol. In CC they dummy-proofed it for me; there is literally a button that says "Log out".
  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,535Moderator
    Main menu?

    keven2002 said:
    You do realize you can adjust sizes and positions of all that right? I like the ability of adding what i need and in the places that I need them to be rather than a set location.
    I think that's the point the OP was trying to make... the game starts up like that as a default and people don't know what's possible and what's not. 

    I barely ever use EC and to this day I don't know how to log out of EC without just clicking the "X" in the top right lol. In CC they dummy-proofed it for me; there is literally a button that says "Log out".



  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,566
    Mariah said:
    Main menu?

    keven2002 said:
    You do realize you can adjust sizes and positions of all that right? I like the ability of adding what i need and in the places that I need them to be rather than a set location.
    I think that's the point the OP was trying to make... the game starts up like that as a default and people don't know what's possible and what's not. 

    I barely ever use EC and to this day I don't know how to log out of EC without just clicking the "X" in the top right lol. In CC they dummy-proofed it for me; there is literally a button that says "Log out".



    Cool... where is that located in the OP screenshot? Actions?
  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,535Moderator
    erm, the icon on the base hotbar, main menu? log out is the first option.

  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,566
    Ah it's the paper looking thing; I never hovered over those things to even see Main Menu... thought it would be words like Macros or Actions. Thanks for the info; I don't have to X out anymore! lol
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 622
    MsScarlett said:
    You do realize you can adjust sizes and positions of all that right? I like the ability of adding what i need and in the places that I need them to be rather than a set location.

    This is a completely meaningless point that has nothing to do with anything in my post, you just saw something negative about "your" client and had to make noise.

    To wit, people who come in cold aren't going to know what they can do with the interface, or even what they should do with it. Furthermore, if the very first thing you give them in the game is a ten minute homework assignment on assembling their own interface out of randomly-placed parts, then a lot of them just aren't going to bother. The first few minutes of a game are critical to retention, and there are a billion free-to-play RPGs out there that don't try to pull that shit.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 3,140
    Ec is so vastly superior 
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 622
    Every first-party UO client is complete embarrassing garbage. EC versus CC fights are like watching people argue over whether cat poop or dog poop tastes better.
  • Victim_Of_SiegeVictim_Of_Siege Posts: 2,409
    Lord_Nythrax said:
    Every first-party UO client is complete embarrassing garbage. EC versus CC fights are like watching people argue over whether cat poop or dog poop tastes better.
    Cat poop, of course . . .
    A Goblin, a Gargoyle, and a Drow walk into a bar . . .

    Never be afraid to challenge the status quo

  • Victim_Of_SiegeVictim_Of_Siege Posts: 2,409
    I'm going to agree that it should have a better starting layout , along with a Tutorial with basic use. I long ago create templates for my basic character typs with spells and macros, then saved them to a folder. When I create a new character, i rename the file whatever name i'm using and paste it in the appropriate shard folder. a beginning layout would look better as something like this, or whatever others feel is best.


    A Goblin, a Gargoyle, and a Drow walk into a bar . . .

    Never be afraid to challenge the status quo

  • Victim_Of_SiegeVictim_Of_Siege Posts: 2,409
    keven2002 said:
    Mariah said:
    Main menu?

    keven2002 said:
    You do realize you can adjust sizes and positions of all that right? I like the ability of adding what i need and in the places that I need them to be rather than a set location.
    I think that's the point the OP was trying to make... the game starts up like that as a default and people don't know what's possible and what's not. 

    I barely ever use EC and to this day I don't know how to log out of EC without just clicking the "X" in the top right lol. In CC they dummy-proofed it for me; there is literally a button that says "Log out".



    Cool... where is that located in the OP screenshot? Actions?
    just hit the ESC key and it'll pop up 

    A Goblin, a Gargoyle, and a Drow walk into a bar . . .

    Never be afraid to challenge the status quo

  • LokeaLokea Posts: 280
    keven2002 said:
    MsScarlett said:
    You do realize you can adjust sizes and positions of all that right? I like the ability of adding what i need and in the places that I need them to be rather than a set location.
    I think that's the point the OP was trying to make... the game starts up like that as a default and people don't know what's possible and what's not. 

    I barely ever use EC and to this day I don't know how to log out of EC without just clicking the "X" in the top right lol. In CC they dummy-proofed it for me; there is literally a button that says "Log out".
    If those people play other MMOs they will start in on adjusting the layout to whatever they are used to.  It’s literally the first thing I do once I get logged into a new MMO.  Most, if not all, MMOs that ship these days have highly customizable interfaces. With UO, when I came back, first thing I did was expand the size of the game window and fiddle with UI scaling, because I have a large 4K monitor.

    I do agree that it could perhaps be better, starting with things like the backpack/containers having a brighter background.  It’s there in the settings but still.

    As for logging  out of the EC, I just hit the ESCAPE key and it brings up a menu with logout, exit game, user settings, Macros, Actions, Ultima Store, Help. Etc.

    Is it perfect? No, but for players coming in from other MMOs, it’s going to be the one they gravitate towards.
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