Just plain confused

Who do you ask at broadsword if something I'm doing is legal? I mean there is someone right?
Been away many years don't understand bots multi-boxing and scripting. I know i cant do unattended macroing and only can play classic client or enhanced, but I can still open six accounts on one computer screen and see them all at same time. I'm not sure its allowed after reading the many posts about cheaters. I hunt single spawn powerful critters with 4 samps/archers and 2 bards. Play the provo and peace buffs and discord with the bards and target attack with the other 4. No scripts not sure if this is multi-boxing as i have 6 clients side by side. Who do i ask, because it seems for sure no one will agree on the boards.
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  • UrgeUrge Posts: 1,300
    Multibox is controlling all characters with 1 keystroke and requires another program to run.

    You're doing multiclient which is fine as long as you can see all your screens and answer if a gm does come. 
  • MizzlynMizzlyn Posts: 14
    oh ok tyvm the terminology totally confuses me
  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,057
    edited January 14
    you cannot use the client YOU are using. that clear enough?

    You can only use classic client, the new classic client and enhanced client

    NOT the one you have been seen using (if its you)

    You can only use auto follow in the 2D client NOT what you are using
    assuming the char I see in Legends, who matches your profile name is in fact the char you are using in game

    You cannot tow multiple chars and have them act as you. what YOU are doing it illegal

    That clear?

    The vampires you tow are automated, you are not controlling them individually. the client you are using is NOT legal


  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,057
    your 6 clients act as one with one keystroke  you cannot control 4 sampires individually as you are not an octopus
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,400
    edited January 14
    your 6 clients act as one with one keystroke  you cannot control 4 sampires individually as you are not an octopus
    I identify as a sloth.  Maybe they are an octopus.  Where's KroDuK?    :D

    Leave this thread open for him so we have entertainment while shards are down.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,787
    Pawain said:
    your 6 clients act as one with one keystroke  you cannot control 4 sampires individually as you are not an octopus
    I identify as a sloth.  Maybe they are an octopus.  Where's KroDuK?    :D

    Leave this thread open for him so we have entertainment while shards are down.
    I'm actually interested in Mizzlyn's response.
    If he is playing that cleanly, and I know some players do, it just shows, people cannot keep jumping to conclusions.
  • MizzlynMizzlyn Posts: 14
    I'm sorry to confuse you but I probably shouldn't be posting under this screen name. My home shard is Balhae because I used to live in South Korea. I have toons also on Atlantic, Catskills, Great Lakes, Legends and Europa. I have 6 accounts because I'm the only one still playing and my rl friends passed on there accounts years ago. I keep using 180 day passes to allow the houses not to collapse. With the 6 accounts and they have uo assist I hunt balrons, treasure map with 3 or 4 at a time, Putrifiers back yrs ago, shadow wyrms, ancient dragon, and some of the critters that required keys. We used to all play Cats when the game was new, but we all went different directions after graduating. I was aware of scripting when i played such as 24/7 miners and fisherman. Bots seem to describe something different. Id simply prefer not to cheat but I use 6 clients when I attack with a toon it stays on the target automatically. I also know of a uo assist script/macro my friend created that last an insane amount of time that with one key the macro attacks with primary attacks and attack next. I don't use it because I didn't write it, but my understanding is its legal being it a program that is a 3rd party approved program. Sorry but I'm either playing on Balhae or Atlantic I'm not sure whats going on on legends. I don't pvp or do events I'm not into decorations or EM drops I just like killing critters and an occasional try at a barracoon with a necro mage spamming wither.I rarely see other people playing doing what I do. I could not post the last 2 months until I read I needed mozzilla/firefox because I would be logged out immediately.
  • MizzlynMizzlyn Posts: 14
    Oh and doom sometime is fun
  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,057
    Mizzlyn said:
    Id simply prefer not to cheat but I use 6 clients when I attack with a toon it stays on the target automatically. 
    Illegal  you must be in control of the client, if 5 are running automatically auto targeting as I have witnessed you are using an illegal client to do this

    I would strongly advise you to not do it and learn to play the game legally I client at a time

    You chars all attack as one not one at a time

  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,468
    Mizzlyn said:
    Id simply prefer not to cheat but I use 6 clients when I attack with a toon it stays on the target automatically. 
    Illegal  you must be in control of the client, if 5 are running automatically auto targeting as I have witnessed you are using an illegal client to do this

    I would strongly advise you to not do it and learn to play the game legally I client at a time

    You chars all attack as one not one at a time

    You of course ignore the part where they said they don't play legends  .
  • Jha_durJha_dur Posts: 30
    Grimbeard said:
    Mizzlyn said:
    Id simply prefer not to cheat but I use 6 clients when I attack with a toon it stays on the target automatically. 
    Illegal  you must be in control of the client, if 5 are running automatically auto targeting as I have witnessed you are using an illegal client to do this

    I would strongly advise you to not do it and learn to play the game legally I client at a time

    You chars all attack as one not one at a time

    You of course ignore the part where they said they don't play legends  .
    I was going to comment the same thing, but decided not too. 

    Both completely reading something and comprehending what an individual read is way to uncommon now days. People get so hung up on certain details and just completely gloss over the rest.
  • KingKing Posts: 115
    @JackFlashUk is another Karen example of the:



    ME ME ME ME ME, ONLY ABOUT ME!!!!
    You are messing with ME on the Shard that I play Legends and you dont!  but you still messing with ME ME ME ME.
    You are using UOA as mentioned, but I am a Karen, I dont believe, you ruining my game, ME ME ME ME ME
  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,057
    King said:
    @ JackFlashUk is another Karen example of the:



    ME ME ME ME ME, ONLY ABOUT ME!!!!
    You are messing with ME on the Shard that I play Legends and you dont!  but you still messing with ME ME ME ME.
    You are using UOA as mentioned, but I am a Karen, I dont believe, you ruining my game, ME ME ME ME ME
    lol 
  • MizzlynMizzlyn Posts: 14
    Actually its my fault I have access to many of my friends old accounts and log ins. I tried everyone to get a forum name that would stay logged in, The one i was using was this one when I changed to firefox and it says legends is my main shard. I had 2 friends that moved to legends from catskills and this apparently is one of there forum ids. The only reason I started checking the forum boards is because recently when logged in and shopping I have DCed a lot for no apparent reason. It rarely ever happens when using all 6 accts or fighting in general just house organizing items or shopping. I never read anything about why it happens, but I read all the cheating discussions and wha-la my confusion on terminology. Sorry for any confusion
  • looploop Posts: 444
    You’re right to be confused. Historically Broadsword has made some distinction between multi-boxing and players who simply have multiple clients running.

    Here’s what UO.com says:

    https://uo.com/support/

    Multiboxing Update
    Starting with the Endless Journey update, we have begun to action accounts for multiboxing. Players are restricted from logging and controlling multiple characters at the same time with the assistance of software or third-party programs. Controlling multiple characters at the same time to attack NPCs or other players, or perform any other actions in a synchronized manner is considered multiboxing and will result in the associated accounts being suspended or terminated. Players who have multiple users in the same household playing from multiple machines, or are manually controlling each of their accounts, are not considered to be multiboxing.
    My take on this is that even the use of UOAssist, an approved program, to synchronize multiple clients would count as a violation.

    In practicality, it doesn’t matter too much. I suppose someone might report you, but you’d probably get off the hook if you respond to a GM — if a GM bothers to message you at all.
  • MizzlynMizzlyn Posts: 14
    Fair enough and ty for the explanation of Multiboxing
  • Mizzlyn said:
    Who do i ask, because it seems for sure no one will agree on the boards.

    It doesn't really matter. The developers attempts to curb rampant botting were a miserable failure and they've largely lost control of their own game.
  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,057
    You are so confused you continue to cheat?

    What you were seen doing TODAY on Legends is illegal

    YOU KNOW YOU ARE CHEATING

    no confusion at all
  • MizzlynMizzlyn Posts: 14
    Jack I see from looking at your posts, you have been bitching about the game since 2020. Your main shard is Atlantic which I actually play, are you sure you didn't see me cheating on Atlantic? But if you can explain why I constantly disconnect when standing in my house looking through containers, it would be greatly appreciated, To those who effectively explained the terminology to me tyvm.
  • SkettSkett Posts: 1,638
    I keep getting disconnected as well just being in my house
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 830
    edited January 19
    It's server instability:


    The Producer decided to not communicate more on the issue.. been a problem since 14th 5am eastern time.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,057
    edited January 19
    Mizzlyn said:
    Jack I see from looking at your posts, you have been bitching about the game since 2020. Your main shard is Atlantic which I actually play, are you sure you didn't see me cheating on Atlantic? But if you can explain why I constantly disconnect when standing in my house looking through containers, it would be greatly appreciated, To those who effectively explained the terminology to me tyvm.

    Legends. Your army of bots has been seen on legends 

    I have fully trained accts on several shards

    and as you so politely put it yes, I have actually be "bitching" and reporting I will add about cheating well before 2020 

    Just one of many who seem to be incapable of playing the game without automated cheating, which I feel is very sad and I cannot see how you get any for of satisfaction form it. But maybe this is just the way of the modern "gamer"

    YOU asked the question at the top of this post as you were confused

    a clear explanation has been given

    YOU know what YOU are doing is illegal 

    like I said, no confusion

    If you do get banned then its YOUR fault, not your friends, not their acct, not your neighbours cat

    YOURS
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,062
    edited January 19
    KroDuK said:
    It's server instability:


    The Producer decided to not communicate more on the issue.. been a problem since 14th 5am eastern time.

    And it is an instability which makes, at least for me, the game unplayable since, when the server comes back up, there usually is a time revert which it means that whatever I did in the gave after the last save before the crash, gets lost... all time wasted...

    With such an unpredictability that my time in the game might get not saved, I prefer not to log rather then seeing my time in the game going wasted...

    Unfortunately, since this has been going on days now, this means not playing as I would have liked or could have...

    @Kyronix , given the situation, perhaps you could consider extending the current deadlines for the Events as a consequence to Servers instability ?
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,468
    Everyone should go to massivelyop.com and ask them to look into the ddos attacks 
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 830
    edited January 19
    @popps Welcome to the club!

    *whisper* Could you also ask them for news about the war on third party? Personally this is the thing that makes the game unplayable.. if they are to extent the event.. i'm not playing since ~5th of december cuz of them bottters & frame skippers.. after waiting a couple months for something like that I was pretty pump!

    Nada from them since july 2024.. legit missing in actions in time of need.. we are at war!
    Maybe we should ask massivelyop
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • MizzlynMizzlyn Posts: 14
    Sorry Flash no pets allowed in my apartment complex. You make statements with all the confidence of a millennial, I'm curious why you think you know when I'm playing my accounts? I enjoy reading your posts so please don't take offense. As stated above just confused.
  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,057
    Mizzlyn said:
    Sorry Flash no pets allowed in my apartment complex. You make statements with all the confidence of a millennial, I'm curious why you think you know when I'm playing my accounts? I enjoy reading your posts so please don't take offense. As stated above just confused.
    weird, I see Mizzlyn and I assume you are playing. are you saying that you are not and that the army is automated?
    You started this post because you were confused. So would I be right to guess that you were on free shards before? frees hard where this automated client you appear to be running was legal?

    Well its NOT here

    having a following automated army is not legal, when I saw your army you were NOT using auto follow, they all behave as one and lightweight fast, you are NOT controlling them individually so please so not even try to argue


    You asked advice, you were given its, to me it looks like you did not like what you read and are choosing to ignore, good for you.  WHEN and IF you get banned for using an illegal client you only have yourself to blame

    So, as you are aware, if you load up a client before you load UO that is NOT on the approved list, you find it, then you are in danger of getting banned

    What you really need to ask yourself is each of these

    1. Why cant I play the game with one char?
    2. Why do I need to cheat and have an automated army?
    3. multi client players may tow a bard for health buff, but NOT a garg, archer, or Samp, with auto target (I.e all hitting the same target, multiple accts control with single keystroke, you know what I mean) so why am I seen doing this?
    4. if all of your chars go through the solen holes at the same time then how are you switching screens/accts to do this? 
    5. if you have OR*ON client or any other non approved running you are in breach of the rules

    The drops you will get with one or multiple accts, each mob may drop 1 item, they do not drop multiple. The only reason I can see that people cheat is to become seemingly invincible, so the paragons cannot kill you army.

    Do you take pleasure from that? is that modern gaming? no skill, no risk, just cheat?

    I pity anyone who has to have an automated program to play a game like this, sooner or later you will learn one of 2 things here

    play legally and actually play the game

    or you get banned

    I for one hope you have the integrity to play the game, I wont miss you at all if you get kicked if you continue to appear to be using an automated program


    This is as clear as it gets, you are cheating, you know you are cheating, if you were not, there would be no need for you to appear confused


    like I said, you didn't like the answer and you are appearing to abuse game mechanics, but how long will you get away with it?????????

    glad you like my posts, I like to entertain, but also like shooting with straight arrows. If it takes me longer to achieve perfection, so be it :)

    Be careful how you proceed in game, do you have alot of time and money invested in this game  to lose?
  • MizzlynMizzlyn Posts: 14
    Are you saying there is an actual uo toon named Mizzlyn? I would be surprised I guess I always thought my friend used the name based on a cartoon, but I rarely see anyone using the name. I sadly do not play on legends. To answer your question about playing multiclients. I have three clients across and 2 top to bottom. The vast majority of the time the my toons are not moving except 1 account that is the lure of whatever I'm farming. I simply pull the healthbar on 4 account and click to attack. 3 swing on there own just normal no special moves and the lure account I play actively as long as I'm not moving between the bards trying to discord the creature. 6 accounts fit nearly perfectly on my screen. I can afford to pay for 6 so that how I play when multiclienting. When I run my toons to the farm spot I tend to run them separately because otherwise its was to chaotic. You run in a bard playing no buffs and invis then run the fighter/archer in 1 at a time invis rinse and repeat till all accounts are where your stacking them. The main concern I had was multiclienting considered multiboxing because I had not heard the term previously when playing uo. Scripting unattended macroing were the common cheating problem, and automated miners/fishers/resource type gatherers.I thought a box meant the client box I had open 6 times could be called boxes. Beyond that I don't know what to say about what you see in the solen holes. I have a toon I collect resources for bags of sending, but am unclear what you would need a large group to kill in the solen place. I honestly don't know any way to move a group other than auto follow either. I'm sure this may not help, but its the best I can do.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 830
    edited January 19
    At least mizz is funny.. full of it, but funny.  :D

    If playing dumb was an art, u'd be an artist  B)
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • MizzlynMizzlyn Posts: 14
    Well one thing I do truly suck at is drawing, but I'll take funny. Is there a good critter to hunt to try and get legendary jewelry drops? Is the better loot still on the creatures with the highest fame?
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