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Trees to stumps?

daradara Posts: 37
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Can they turn that option on in the CUO . I like that option when doing maps and trees blocking steps ect.  You can use the addon in Pincos for turning off trees , so don't see why not in the CUO.
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  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 514
    edited December 17
    I don't do anything that especially benefits from it, but I'm sympathetic to this request. I don't really see why getting hung up on foliage should be some kind of crucial gameplay element worth fighting for. Same with the options that make field spells more legible.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,289
    I cant see part of one of my houses.  Cant even put anything on the front steps here.

    You prob want for a different reason.


    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • Victim_Of_SiegeVictim_Of_Siege Posts: 2,165
    Pawain said:
    I cant see part of one of my houses.  Cant even put anything on the front steps here.


    Not even with COT?
    A Goblin, a Gargoyle, and a Drow walk into a bar . . .

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  • LilyGraceLilyGrace Posts: 1,003
    If I'm not mistaken it's those weird jungle trees, @Victim_Of_Siege . You can't see through them and they cast a shadow inside a house too. Like the deeded cherry blossom trees do.
  • Victim_Of_SiegeVictim_Of_Siege Posts: 2,165
    LilyGrace said:
    If I'm not mistaken it's those weird jungle trees, @ Victim_Of_Siege . You can't see through them and they cast a shadow inside a house too. Like the deeded cherry blossom trees do.
    Gotcha, now that you mention it I do remember placing a house on fire island and dealing with that. Main reason I turned devastation on years ago. At least the leaves are gone. You can do the same IN EC by turning canopies off. It takes the sails away from ships too. 
    A Goblin, a Gargoyle, and a Drow walk into a bar . . .

    Never be afraid to challenge the status quo

  • ArmyArmy Posts: 44
    As a new man and a current Ultima Onojne enthusiast, thank you for not allowing tree stump hacks. Can you please also ban PincosUI from being able to connect to servers, as it is advertising such art hacks. It’s detrimental to the longevity of this beloved game.

    -former cheater
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,289
    Yup CoT is at max in that pic. I am standing on the step around the house.  I can adjust CoT and see the step around the house but it makes it transparent so I cant drop anything there.  So, I guess I could use EC and figure out where that setting is.  I could use those lockdowns and put some zombies climbing up that wall.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • Arroth_ThaielArroth_Thaiel Posts: 1,073
    edited December 17
    Pawain said:
    Yup CoT is at max in that pic. I am standing on the step around the house.  I can adjust CoT and see the step around the house but it makes it transparent so I cant drop anything there.  So, I guess I could use EC and figure out where that setting is.  I could use those lockdowns and put some zombies climbing up that wall.

    Let us know how trying this in the EC goes. I'm guessing poorly.

    Toggle Foliage doesn't appear to actually remove the foliage, rather turning off the tree canopy graphic. The click box for the canopy remains. As such, in many cases you still can't click between the tree limbs, even if you can see the ground. Quite frequently, if you do manage to get the click to be accepted, it places the click location at the base of the tree, just as if you'd clicked on the foliage.

    --
    I see Vic's post below about using the graphics tab. Since this post is still editable, there is also Actions> Other > Toggle Foliage from the main menu, which can be setup up as a hotbar or macro to toggle foliage on the fly.
    -Arroth
  • Victim_Of_SiegeVictim_Of_Siege Posts: 2,165
    edited December 17
    Pawain said:
    Yup CoT is at max in that pic. I am standing on the step around the house.  I can adjust CoT and see the step around the house but it makes it transparent so I cant drop anything there.  So, I guess I could use EC and figure out where that setting is.  I could use those lockdowns and put some zombies climbing up that wall.
    Apologies @Pawain Canopy off is what you change in CC cfg file to turn them off. In the EC it is Foliage off on Graphics Tab


    A Goblin, a Gargoyle, and a Drow walk into a bar . . .

    Never be afraid to challenge the status quo

  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,289
    Thanks, I had to use all 3 clients to get it.  EC allowed me to see the spot where the vase is.
    CC allowed me to do the rest, but halfway thu, it made the trees kinda show up so it was not easy.
    Then the only client that lets me see it while above without trees was the CUO client.

    But, I was able to remove some stuff from storage!  


    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • RhelRhel Posts: 78
    Pawain said:
    Thanks, I had to use all 3 clients to get it.  EC allowed me to see the spot where the vase is.
    CC allowed me to do the rest, but halfway thu, it made the trees kinda show up so it was not easy.
    Then the only client that lets me see it while above without trees was the CUO client.

    But, I was able to remove some stuff from storage!  


    I'm going to have to look into this. I'd seen the Show Foilage option in the EC, but I'm happy to hear the option is available (to some degree) in all the clients.

    Interesting that the CUO client seems to have the most robust implementation. 
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,289
    Rhel said:
    Pawain said:
    Thanks, I had to use all 3 clients to get it.  EC allowed me to see the spot where the vase is.
    CC allowed me to do the rest, but halfway thu, it made the trees kinda show up so it was not easy.
    Then the only client that lets me see it while above without trees was the CUO client.

    But, I was able to remove some stuff from storage!  


    I'm going to have to look into this. I'd seen the Show Foilage option in the EC, but I'm happy to hear the option is available (to some degree) in all the clients.

    Interesting that the CUO client seems to have the most robust implementation. 
    Not really, I'm on the 3rd floor of the house to see without trees.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • RhelRhel Posts: 78
    Pawain said:
    Rhel said:
    Pawain said:
    Thanks, I had to use all 3 clients to get it.  EC allowed me to see the spot where the vase is.
    CC allowed me to do the rest, but halfway thu, it made the trees kinda show up so it was not easy.
    Then the only client that lets me see it while above without trees was the CUO client.

    But, I was able to remove some stuff from storage!  


    I'm going to have to look into this. I'd seen the Show Foilage option in the EC, but I'm happy to hear the option is available (to some degree) in all the clients.

    Interesting that the CUO client seems to have the most robust implementation. 
    Not really, I'm on the 3rd floor of the house to see without trees.
    So I'm guessing the game is registering those canopies as on a different "layer" or "level" above what the CoT can reach. Maybe just extending the CoT "bubble" would fix the issue 

    Does it work on the 3rd floor on CUO, but not on the 2nd or 1st?
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,289
    Kinda like that, depending where you stand.  But, the CoT too big does not let you place on the step when down there because it turns transparent,  so it took a lot of finding the right stop to stand.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • SkettSkett Posts: 1,605
    edited December 18
    cc and webcuo seem to handle transparency different not sure why
    I noticed collecting the daily semi rares




  • ArmyArmy Posts: 44
    #BanPincosCheatUI
  • TimStTimSt Posts: 1,875
    @Skett could you post a picture of what one of the daily rare rocks look like when it is out of the ground?
  • SkettSkett Posts: 1,605




  • gaygay Posts: 404
    Pincos UI more like Cheatcos UI!
  • daradara Posts: 37
    edited December 20
    Army said:
    As a new man and a current Ultima Onojne enthusiast, thank you for not allowing tree stump hacks. Can you please also ban PincosUI from being able to connect to servers, as it is advertising such art hacks. It’s detrimental to the longevity of this beloved game.

    1. -former cheater


    What features in Pincos do see that is cheating? The tree stumps? Even if we could turn off canopies like in EC would be fine with me, doesn't have to be stumps.
  • FoosFoos Posts: 93
    To this day I have no idea why Trees to stump isn't allowed and isn't a feature of the client.  Remove houses should be too.  Improving things for the PVP community doesn't hurt anyone.  These are options you should be able to turn off and on. 
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 514
    Yeah just give these guys stumphack, who actually gives a shit?
  • SkettSkett Posts: 1,605
    At this point does it matter ? Who and how does it effect anyone other than PvPers 
  • FoosFoos Posts: 93
    Skett said:
    At this point does it matter ? Who and how does it effect anyone other than PvPers 

    It doesn't.  If it's an option in the client it does nothing to anyone except it gives PVPers a quality of life enhancement.  It doesn't give anyone an advantage at pvm, doesn't help anyone "beat" anyone else.  It just evens the playing field.  This thread is just the same 4 or 5 bitter players that have been complaining about everything for the past several years.  But of all the things they complain about when it comes to Trees and stumps I don't see where they even have a leg to stand on.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,289
    edited December 21
    So if you turn this feature on, you can walk thru trees?  

    My pets could actually follow me in the forests, Yay

    The devs do all the work to place trees, then yall think they are gonna let you just have flat land?

    If I am wrong about walking thru trees, then I'm for it.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 514
    It literally just changes the displayed graphics for trees into stumps for better visibility. It has no other effect on gameplay and there's no reason to be opposed to it unless you think "not being able to see shit" is a crucial part of the UO experience.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,289
    I recall someone saying players could walk through trees and grave stones many years ago with some client.

    If you still have to walk around trees and objects, then what's the big deal?
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 712
    edited December 23
    I don't get the big deal, if you enjoy PvP just use another client??.. problem solve!
    Why bothering the dev team with such trivial things??
    What wrong could happen? Not being able to use your new and improve client 48 hours per year?
    Little price to pay to be able to automated your PvP commands, frame skip like a superhero while enjoying not playing 10+ accounts at once, with little to no lag.

    Cookie and co was right all along.. the dev can't stop showering them, I mean us!.. the main content under Mythic and now BS is aim toward them, I mean us!.. You can use it in plan daylight and brag about it on official forum.

    You don't ask.. u just do, like the guy in my signature said. We should be gratefull to have all those options.. Thank You BS for doing such an awesome job, we speed running this B.. all together.. everyone pad yourself on the back if u hvn't already, u did great!

    See you all on NL!! This is what UO needed all along!
    Can't wait for 2025!

    Edit: just to be clear, there is 0 sarcasm.. just make sure the dev team focus on NL.. we got all we need on the theme gated version, don't waste time on CC nor EC.. UNLESS it make NL a better theme park and we could also use some of those artificial automated numbers on NL.. I miss the feeling of living within active cockroaches train/armies.. do that and NL gonna become the real deal.. the real UO we waited for.

    Anyway GJ BS! y'all did awesome, my bots had a blast this year! Mesanna is the goat!!


    We can barely play the game (unplayable to me, since I enjoy PvP).. the main event/content is infested by cockroaches and y'all demanding to chop the trees and houses?? Don't get me wrong i'd love that.. but god damn.. u missing both legs and instead asking for a doctor y'all asking for a barber.  :/
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,289
    You do know that many are playing NL right now, some, like me stopped and are playing prodo shards for the events.  But many are playing both or just NL. Especially returning players that are enjoying it.

    NL is a success, took a while to finish but it is a very different game and quite fun.

    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 712
    edited December 23
    Let's have this discussion in 24 months.. it's a niche in a niche.. Theme Park Legacy New Heresy.. There is one niche in extra.. burning out your sandbox player base with a theme park extraction AT BEST.. the problem still is the "main" game.. without a solid foundation to extract on, NL is doomed.. can't even compete with an illegal shard; it's legit a RPG theme park with UO assets.

    In those term.. NL is going to be a bot fest in 24 months max to extract stuff on prodo (BS gonna give up soon enough; their failures and abandon is part of their culture; they only good at bribing y'all and controlling their mafia).. a one year long event.. look at the event we got.. bot fest killing the legit player base.. u expect better result from NL???.. a theme park to extract stuff on a sandbox?? -.-

    Think long term and consider we talking about Boardsword Studio under Mesanna.. 3 dev working on 2 very different, similar looking game -.-

    Imagine if NL was UO without all the mistake different studio have done over the time (a classic like version).. instead of being a totally different game.. a RPG theme park.. using UO assets.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
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