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It's time to rethink these ToTs for the next time around...

usernameusername Posts: 951
edited December 18 in General Discussions
Perhaps these awful boring grindfests that hand out best in slot items and give bot armies a payday isn't the best idea for an event. We've been stuck in a rut, going around in circles, groundhog day-ing every 6 months with these ToTs for years and it's time to give them up, in favor of something else. They're played out at this point and not fun, especially not fun with all the botting.

However, I'm sure we'll never be rid of them completely, as they're free lazy 'content' for the devs while they focus on NL, in which case I'd suggest all gear rewards in the future from similar events, not limited to ToTs, become account bound:
  • Possibly reduced point->reward cost as inherent no market value
  • Able to transfer rewards to other shards like true sandbox game (not shard bound)
  • Incentive to purchase potions - currently none when it's more cost effective to simply buy more rewards from 24/7 bots for cheaper than the potion itself, which would yield less reward points
  • Incentive for players to come back and play the game
  • 24/7 bots for 3 months disappear, no RMT incentive
Let's make it happen! Any other suggestions?
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  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 698
    edited December 18
    unsub till BS addresses the problem and send them on a ban world server with no transfer shield?

    Bashing mobs events are great! for 4-6 weeks.. the reward is an heresy.. it should not exist in those format on a sandbox game.. Best in Slot item make mainstream during a limited time.. all the same pool of heresy should come back year after year.. it's not friendly for new nor returning players.

    They should stop inciting us to use illegal third party client and stop with the bad PR BS.. they just look like failures while creating false expectation.

    Or just make one new server for Legit users.

    Imo, you don't fix a sandbox heresy with another one.. or u end up with one of the best sandbox game with a tiny community of real people.. that gonna die when it's remaining community does.


    Make enough noise for EA to hear us?
    Lots of solution but there is a price to pay instead of getting on your knee in front people ruining the game for others.. starting with the PvP or main events.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
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  • creampiecreampie Posts: 112
    the master of closed threads hit again. Ok so now you want shard bound removed ??? you ask for shard bound and defend it even if eveyone told you how crap it was. you seriously lost credibility everytime you post here. you just seem like an angry chocken with no head running around.
  • WhitewolfWhitewolf Posts: 231
    i dunno im having alot of fun with the current ToT event, course i also choose not to play on a toxic server over run with bots and multiple boxers, i dunno i mean that might have something to do with it ~shrugs~
  • usernameusername Posts: 951
    edited December 18
    creampie said:
    the master of closed threads hit again. Ok so now you want shard bound removed ??? you ask for shard bound and defend it even if eveyone told you how crap it was. you seriously lost credibility everytime you post here. you just seem like an angry chocken with no head running around.
    I have never once asked for shard bound nor defended it.

    Instead of trolling, perhaps offer a suggestion that defeats the mass bot armies from RMT, makes these events more fun, etc.
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  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 698
    edited December 18
    creampie said:
    the master of closed threads hit again. Ok so now you want shard bound removed ??? you ask for shard bound and defend it even if eveyone told you how crap it was. you seriously lost credibility everytime you post here. you just seem like an angry chocken with no head running around.
    You should try to ask question.. u clearly lacking the skill to understand what i'm saying.. since day 1 i'm saying shard bound is an heresy.. it kills the game for most new or returning players (the one NOT on ATL)

    While killing ATL during the events.. if u don't see the problem.. ask questions, cuz your conclusion is dumb.. since day 1 i'm calling those shard bound; heresy.


    Whitewolf said:
    i dunno im having alot of fun with the current ToT event, course i also choose not to play on a toxic server over run with bots and multiple boxers, i dunno i mean that might have something to do with it ~shrugs~
    You are not PvPing.. u forgot the fact it kills the PvP (the game) for A LOT of players (the majority of western gamers still legit and a lot of those enjoy a good PvP session)
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
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  • ScrewballScrewball Posts: 5
    I have a suggestion. Maybe go play another game. Or create your own shard where your ingenious ideas can be implemented. This cannot be fun for you. Most of us are having fun. Touch grass, read a book, play a game you actually find enjoyable. Stop trying to be the Sherlock Holmes of Ultima Online. It's clearly not working.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 698
    edited December 18
    Screwball said:
    It's clearly not working.
    We'll see about that..

    Screwball said:
    Most of us are having fun.
     :* 


    I promise u big change incoming in the next year.. BS can'T stop shooting themselves in the foot, starting with NL.. all we need is some exposure on certain aspects.. wich i can provide.

    To me it's just insanity the head of the management cannot realises that before it's too late. A house of cards.


    Medit on that:

    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • ScrewballScrewball Posts: 5
    What's this "big change" that you promise me? And which certain aspects need "exposure"? This all seems very cryptic to me. What is management supposed to be realizing?
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 698
    You have all the tools.. ask to your AI, if u can't use them.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • ScrewballScrewball Posts: 5
    What tools do I have? What am I going to ask AI?
  • usernameusername Posts: 951
    I have no idea what you guys are blabbing on about but can we keep to the topic at hand

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    Suggestions for next events or ways to make these events better:
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  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 698
    edited December 18
    username said:
    can we keep to the topic at hand
    done and done..

    We even had a taste of the solution:
    Whitewolf said:
    i dunno im having alot of fun with the current ToT event, course i also choose not to play on a toxic server over run with bots and multiple boxers, i dunno i mean that might have something to do with it ~shrugs~

    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • ScrewballScrewball Posts: 5
    How can exposure affect the situation?
    What solutions do you suggest for management?
    Who else should be involved in this?

    There you go. I posted your comment into AI.... it's got a few questions for you lol
  • FenriswolfFenriswolf Posts: 125
    edited December 18
    its easy to create events that counteract multiple accounts botting, or multibox events ruining the game, simply introduce hand ins that require multiple items to collect the reward, not just drops from killing stuff

    Introduce the items that you can only get by actually playing the game into the requirement to collect the reward, or can only get them from players that actually play(ed) the game, and this moves the control over to actual players

    For example, with the Manifestation or Town invasion, they could have drop ticket rewards from the boss for the artifact items that you would collect from a vendor, but at the same time, you had to hand in 4 completed Treasure maps at the same time, or 4 Deco items collected from the Thunter chests or from the hidden chests in the invasions

    So for the Moldering Ursine, you would need 200 Sanctum drops PLUS 4 deco or 4 completed treasure maps to collect

    For Shadows Fury Artifact item, you hand in your ticket plus 4 COMPLETED treasure maps

    With this im assuming it is not possible to BOT Thunting and detecting hidden chests? If it is, then eff me those bots are good and may as well just replace me

    Yes this doesnt resolve the lag issues and the cheating, but at least it offers less incentive for just mindlessly killing stuff over and over in the town invasions because they cannot collect any reward so easily
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