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  • FenriswolfFenriswolf Posts: 125
    edited December 17
    Playboy_1 said:
    Funny. You seem to blame scripts, on the fact I just know more…me wanting more FPS and UO enhanced means I want more scripting? Lololol. Get out of here. I can post videos of me on Classic client , and without Orion recorded this week wrecking people. Just sucks using unfinished products
    again you "know more"? Superiority complex or what...

    "wrecking people" - this sums up your mindset

    the scripts created lag and killed the game. The scripting in Felucca champ spawns is cheating. and against game rules. There isnt anything to know more than that, so you dont know more than anyone

    There are lots of things that are unfinished that arent based around pvp.

    If you are successful on pvp without Orion im not sure what the issue is for you then? You just like arguing? Making out you are superior? Didnt use it for pvp but sad because you cant cheat on the champ spawns and have lost income?

    I will await your superior-based response, littered with generalisations and mild insults against people that dont pvp and/or live Felucca
  • Playboy_1Playboy_1 Posts: 27
    Fenriswolf said:
    Playboy_1 said:
    Funny. You seem to blame scripts, on the fact I just know more…me wanting more FPS and UO enhanced means I want more scripting? Lololol. Get out of here. I can post videos of me on Classic client , and without Orion recorded this week wrecking people. Just sucks using unfinished products
    again you "know more"? Superiority complex or what...

    "wrecking people" - this sums up your mindset

    the scripts created lag and killed the game. The scripting in Felucca champ spawns is cheating. and against game rules. There isnt anything to know more than that, so you dont know more than anyone

    There are lots of things that are unfinished that arent based around pvp.

    If you are successful on pvp without Orion im not sure what the issue is for you then? You just like arguing? Making out you are superior? Didnt use it for pvp but sad because you cant cheat on the champ spawns and have lost income?
    I’ll get in classic client, and let’s have a race , see who gets done spawning first. Let’s do the rat spawn, and time it. You have the superiority issue, blaming your short comings by accusing me of using scripts Lolol. Sure , I’m successful on 12.5 frames, or the classic web browser by hand switching weapons from my backpack: doesn’t meant I like doing it. Even the default Ultima online classic browser, lets you choose between 4 arm macros. You’re too busy crying about scripting to realize that’s my issue. If I wanted to script; I’d find a way. There is litteraly 5 other useable cheats right now; and what I’m doing is saying; what needs done to REGULAR UO; or web client. To make people wana use them: 
  • Playboy_1Playboy_1 Posts: 27
    Fenriswolf said:
    Playboy_1 said:
    Funny. You seem to blame scripts, on the fact I just know more…me wanting more FPS and UO enhanced means I want more scripting? Lololol. Get out of here. I can post videos of me on Classic client , and without Orion recorded this week wrecking people. Just sucks using unfinished products
    again you "know more"? Superiority complex or what...

    "wrecking people" - this sums up your mindset

    the scripts created lag and killed the game. The scripting in Felucca champ spawns is cheating. and against game rules. There isnt anything to know more than that, so you dont know more than anyone

    There are lots of things that are unfinished that arent based around pvp.

    If you are successful on pvp without Orion im not sure what the issue is for you then? You just like arguing? Making out you are superior? Didnt use it for pvp but sad because you cant cheat on the champ spawns and have lost income?

    I will await your superior-based response, littered with generalisations and mild insults against people that dont pvp and/or live Felucca
    Also. Let me agree with you. Those idiots botting events need perma banned/ IP banned. 
  • FenriswolfFenriswolf Posts: 125
    Playboy_1 said:
    Fenriswolf said:
    Playboy_1 said:
    Funny. You seem to blame scripts, on the fact I just know more…me wanting more FPS and UO enhanced means I want more scripting? Lololol. Get out of here. I can post videos of me on Classic client , and without Orion recorded this week wrecking people. Just sucks using unfinished products
    again you "know more"? Superiority complex or what...

    "wrecking people" - this sums up your mindset

    the scripts created lag and killed the game. The scripting in Felucca champ spawns is cheating. and against game rules. There isnt anything to know more than that, so you dont know more than anyone

    There are lots of things that are unfinished that arent based around pvp.

    If you are successful on pvp without Orion im not sure what the issue is for you then? You just like arguing? Making out you are superior? Didnt use it for pvp but sad because you cant cheat on the champ spawns and have lost income?
    I’ll get in classic client, and let’s have a race , see who gets done spawning first. Let’s do the rat spawn, and time it. You have the superiority issue, blaming your short comings by accusing me of using scripts Lolol. Sure , I’m successful on 12.5 frames, or the classic web browser by hand switching weapons from my backpack: doesn’t meant I like doing it. Even the default Ultima online classic browser, lets you choose between 4 arm macros. You’re too busy crying about scripting to realize that’s my issue. If I wanted to script; I’d find a way. There is litteraly 5 other useable cheats right now; and what I’m doing is saying; what needs done to REGULAR UO; or web client. To make people wana use them: 
    i like it how you choose the rat spawn...ill leave that one there because you also know why

    dont think anyone is crying about scripting except that people that can's use them now? A little weird that one

    I agree the clients need work, im stuck with the CC because i cant stand the others. 

    But in general the point is, Pvp needs work and some love, so i think we just leave it there. Agree to disagree on a lot of things, but thats the general consensus
  • Playboy_1Playboy_1 Posts: 27
    Fenriswolf said:
    Playboy_1 said:
    Fenriswolf said:
    Playboy_1 said:
    Funny. You seem to blame scripts, on the fact I just know more…me wanting more FPS and UO enhanced means I want more scripting? Lololol. Get out of here. I can post videos of me on Classic client , and without Orion recorded this week wrecking people. Just sucks using unfinished products
    again you "know more"? Superiority complex or what...

    "wrecking people" - this sums up your mindset

    the scripts created lag and killed the game. The scripting in Felucca champ spawns is cheating. and against game rules. There isnt anything to know more than that, so you dont know more than anyone

    There are lots of things that are unfinished that arent based around pvp.

    If you are successful on pvp without Orion im not sure what the issue is for you then? You just like arguing? Making out you are superior? Didnt use it for pvp but sad because you cant cheat on the champ spawns and have lost income?
    I’ll get in classic client, and let’s have a race , see who gets done spawning first. Let’s do the rat spawn, and time it. You have the superiority issue, blaming your short comings by accusing me of using scripts Lolol. Sure , I’m successful on 12.5 frames, or the classic web browser by hand switching weapons from my backpack: doesn’t meant I like doing it. Even the default Ultima online classic browser, lets you choose between 4 arm macros. You’re too busy crying about scripting to realize that’s my issue. If I wanted to script; I’d find a way. There is litteraly 5 other useable cheats right now; and what I’m doing is saying; what needs done to REGULAR UO; or web client. To make people wana use them: 
    i like it how you choose the rat spawn...ill leave that one there because you also know why

    dont think anyone is crying about scripting except that people that can's use them now? A little weird that one

    I agree the clients need work, im stuck with the CC because i cant stand the others. 

    But in general the point is, Pvp needs work and some love, so i think we just leave it there. Agree to disagree on a lot of things, but thats the general consensus
    At the end of the day we both love the game; and want it to thrive. I just see the people in multiple discords quitting in droves/selling all their possessions/canceling accounts. I don’t want this game to be dead..Especially with this new script free shard coming out, people are going to be more inclined to go to…just trying to save the game 
  • FenriswolfFenriswolf Posts: 125
    if there not a way a group of people that were previously using the banned client or that have been pvping for years can get together with the DEVs to discuss options that would help, or is that all stuff that has fallen by the wayside over the years?

    It cant be that hard to include features that pvpers want, that at the same time dont cause massive lag or create a disadvantage to other players

    Im assuming that most users of Orion were pvpers? If they are leaving because they cant cheat in the champ spawns then good riddance..
  • Playboy_1Playboy_1 Posts: 27
    Fenriswolf said:
    if there not a way a group of people that were previously using the banned client or that have been pvping for years can get together with the DEVs to discuss options that would help, or is that all stuff that has fallen by the wayside over the years?

    It cant be that hard to include features that pvpers want, that at the same time dont cause massive lag or create a disadvantage to other players

    Im assuming that most users of Orion were pvpers? If they are leaving because they cant cheat in the champ spawns then good riddance..
    It’s not about the champ spawns. I wish the developers would go read the Major PvP discords. 

    Main issues are dress/redress hasent been worked on kr finished
    cycling targets by notoriety…or smoothe grab bar (which just means it grabs bar easier) 
    can’t use exilag….
    cant record simple macros (you can with UO assist) so it’s legal. 

    Just simple things the base vanilla client has..like if regular basic UO had these upgrades (higher fps) customizable window) I believe  every pvper would be fine with UO assist. 

    Most of the pvpers play script free/ free shards and were planning on going to one about to come out, becuz dislike for scripts…but these free shards are client locked; with a good assurance (basic razor) with no script abilities.

    its not about the scripts, its about the playability… and just modernization. 

  • Playboy_1Playboy_1 Posts: 27
    So you’re right it’s not that hard; but when people has used them for years..feeling like they are
    playing a complete new game, then it’s taken away for half finished stuff…they get disheartened/not wana play. Espically when there’s free ones coming out thay include all this (script free) I’m just trying to save the game/keep people playing. 
  • UrgeUrge Posts: 1,291
    I used to pvp for the longest time but trammed out due to being too lazy to want to run some of the things the current playerbase believe is necessary. 

    With that said, to be fair, there are 100x more scripts that fully automate pvm and tram based activities if you look on any of the old sites. 

    My .02 on the pvp vs pvm aspect of things.
  • ArmyArmy Posts: 44
    Hail Travelers!!!

    Freshly off the major win against O..ohhh you a cheater client. I have decided to link up and start a group with fellow/ette anti-cheaters.. BHF! Blue Haired Furries. Do you have what it takes to join me on this pilgrimage to a clean cheat free Ultima Online. If so head on over to BlueSky and Skeet me &BHF!
  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 507
    Playboy_1 said:
    Fenriswolf said:
    if there not a way a group of people that were previously using the banned client or that have been pvping for years can get together with the DEVs to discuss options that would help, or is that all stuff that has fallen by the wayside over the years?

    It cant be that hard to include features that pvpers want, that at the same time dont cause massive lag or create a disadvantage to other players

    Im assuming that most users of Orion were pvpers? If they are leaving because they cant cheat in the champ spawns then good riddance..
    It’s not about the champ spawns. I wish the developers would go read the Major PvP discords. 

    Main issues are dress/redress hasent been worked on kr finished
    cycling targets by notoriety…or smoothe grab bar (which just means it grabs bar easier) 
    can’t use exilag….
    cant record simple macros (you can with UO assist) so it’s legal. 

    Just simple things the base vanilla client has..like if regular basic UO had these upgrades (higher fps) customizable window) I believe  every pvper would be fine with UO assist. 

    Most of the pvpers play script free/ free shards and were planning on going to one about to come out, becuz dislike for scripts…but these free shards are client locked; with a good assurance (basic razor) with no script abilities.

    its not about the scripts, its about the playability… and just modernization. 

    Let’s be real here though.  Most pvpers these days moved away from UOA in lieu of scripts that allowed auto healing, auto chug/cure, etc.

    this isn’t about more FPS it’s the removal of the automation they used including scripts that completely allowed auto combat.  

    In short it is definitely about scripts.  You’d be in a minority if it isn’t.

    Perhaps you can send some requests to ClassicUO for some of the more simple requests.
  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 507
    Army said:
    Hail Travelers!!!

    Freshly off the major win against O..ohhh you a cheater client. I have decided to link up and start a group with fellow/ette anti-cheaters.. BHF! Blue Haired Furries. Do you have what it takes to join me on this pilgrimage to a clean cheat free Ultima Online. If so head on over to BlueSky and Skeet me &BHF!
    So I go to Bluesky and join Blue Hair Fur…..

    whoa ho ohhhh…waiiiit a minute…you almost had me there…
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,266
     :D

    The young un thinks we know what a furry is.   That's his generation not ours.  I see why he made a tough user name now.  Compensating for being a furry.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • Playboy_1Playboy_1 Posts: 27
    Oreogl said:
    Playboy_1 said:
    Fenriswolf said:
    if there not a way a group of people that were previously using the banned client or that have been pvping for years can get together with the DEVs to discuss options that would help, or is that all stuff that has fallen by the wayside over the years?

    It cant be that hard to include features that pvpers want, that at the same time dont cause massive lag or create a disadvantage to other players

    Im assuming that most users of Orion were pvpers? If they are leaving because they cant cheat in the champ spawns then good riddance..
    It’s not about the champ spawns. I wish the developers would go read the Major PvP discords. 

    Main issues are dress/redress hasent been worked on kr finished
    cycling targets by notoriety…or smoothe grab bar (which just means it grabs bar easier) 
    can’t use exilag….
    cant record simple macros (you can with UO assist) so it’s legal. 

    Just simple things the base vanilla client has..like if regular basic UO had these upgrades (higher fps) customizable window) I believe  every pvper would be fine with UO assist. 

    Most of the pvpers play script free/ free shards and were planning on going to one about to come out, becuz dislike for scripts…but these free shards are client locked; with a good assurance (basic razor) with no script abilities.

    its not about the scripts, its about the playability… and just modernization. 

    Let’s be real here though.  Most pvpers these days moved away from UOA in lieu of scripts that allowed auto healing, auto chug/cure, etc.

    this isn’t about more FPS it’s the removal of the automation they used including scripts that completely allowed auto combat.  

    In short it is definitely about scripts.  You’d be in a minority if it isn’t.

    Perhaps you can send some requests to ClassicUO for some of the more simple requests.
    Not true; most these pvpers are quitting for script free / free shards. It’s not about the scripts, for 99%. 
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,403
    Word on the street is O is back in action...
  • Playboy_1Playboy_1 Posts: 27
    Grimbeard said:
    Word on the street is O is back in action...
    Why are people saying O? Is it bannable to use the full name?
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,266
    Playboy_1 said:
    Grimbeard said:
    Word on the street is O is back in action...
    Why are people saying O? Is it bannable to use the full name?
    It should be, stop advertising for them!!!  I understand you want to gather other cheaters together, so you want them to know where to meet.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • Victim_Of_SiegeVictim_Of_Siege Posts: 2,159
    Pawain said:
    Playboy_1 said:
    Grimbeard said:
    Word on the street is O is back in action...
    Why are people saying O? Is it bannable to use the full name?
    It should be, stop advertising for them!!!  I understand you want to gather other cheaters together, so you want them to know where to meet.
    In the Alley behind the Cat's Paw in Britain??
    A Goblin, a Gargoyle, and a Drow walk into a bar . . .

    Never be afraid to challenge the status quo

  • FenriswolfFenriswolf Posts: 125
    Playboy_1 said:
    So you’re right it’s not that hard; but when people has used them for years..feeling like they are
    playing a complete new game, then it’s taken away for half finished stuff…they get disheartened/not wana play. Espically when there’s free ones coming out thay include all this (script free) I’m just trying to save the game/keep people playing. 
    fair enough we got there in the end, i think i would quit if someone forced me to place the EC!!
  • KingKing Posts: 95
    Word on the street is O is back in action... and the same username and pawa, already reported to the principal
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,403
    I'd like to hope the developers have discord accounts and belong to a lot of groups 
  • KingKing Posts: 95
    Grimbeard said:
    I'd like to hope the developers have discord accounts and belong to a lot of groups 

    i dont think they do, specially on those channels and why they would?  when they have ALL you snitches ?
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 698
    edited December 17
    Playboy_1 said:
    At the end of the day we both love the game; and want it to thrive. I just see the people in multiple discords quitting in droves/selling all their possessions/canceling accounts. I don’t want this game to be dead..Especially with this new script free shard coming out, people are going to be more inclined to go to…just trying to save the game 
     :D 

    The guy behave like he's Usul!!
    When in fact it's iscariot thinking he's Yeshua.


    It cant be that hard to include features that pvpers want, that at the same time dont cause massive lag or create a disadvantage to other players
    The problem is on the opposite spectrum.. here for the dev at BS:"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."


    Im assuming that most users of Orion were pvpers? If they are leaving because they cant cheat in the champ spawns then good riddance..
    U'd be surprise.. the difference all serious PvPers were forced to be using it at this point.

    But if we'd count how many PvErs vs how many PvPers were using it.. the % was bigger for PvP clearly but the # is superior for PvEr's.. I don't have those numbers but pretty sure it was the case.. just ask to your crafter friends what clients they were using.


    PS: I wish y'all realised this cookie alt only asking for exitlag to work on CUO to be able to have an efficient multibox.. (VPN) 2 PC running 8 accounts each.


    Playboy_1 said:

    Most of the pvpers play script free
     :D 

    Ok.. I need to step away.. this is C-R-A-Z-Y


    Before I go, Amen to this:
    Oreogl said:
    Let’s be real here though.  Most pvpers these days moved away from UOA in lieu of scripts that allowed auto healing, auto chug/cure, etc.

    this isn’t about more FPS it’s the removal of the automation they used including scripts that completely allowed auto combat.  

    In short it is definitely about scripts.  You’d be in a minority if it isn’t.

    Perhaps you can send some requests to ClassicUO for some of the more simple requests.
    Victim_Of_Siege said:
    In the Alley behind the Cat's Paw in Britain??
                                                    
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,266
    King said:
    Word on the street is O is back in action... and the same username and pawa, already reported to the principal
    Eww don't put me in the same category as him.

    But, we are seeing the posters accounts who are using it.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 698
    edited December 17
    Yeah.. I can vouch what shall not be named is back.. i played last 48 hours.. only one of those bots user/ frame skipper was still playing.. clearly legit..

    I just log in game.. 5 minutes later i'm closing the client.. there is scums frame skipping all over the place.. hvn't took the time to look if they were controlled or just unattended bots.. the frame skipping was enough to make me wanna puke.

    As I thought..  big L.. we need a ban wave or better management. choice is OURS.
    Join me uninstall this steamy doobie and unsub till BS address the problem for real.

    PS: pretty sure this is why Cookie alt promoting it on official forum today.. he wants even more person to use it to pressure the dev to not get rid of it and keep killing the game. or how to promote non gaming.

    Edit: good thing we hvn't invite our legit friend back.. such a disapointement.. very hypocritical disapointement.. @mesanna still hidding

                      
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • IniquityIniquity Posts: 15
    At this point, there probably should be a ban wave. BS broke the client which should have served as a warning,  if they continue to circumvent measures taken to disable it accounts should be in jeopardy.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 698
    edited December 17
    We need that Ban World server OR a LEGIT one.. ASAP.. this is pathetic.. false expectation.. bad PR.. y'all look like failure at BS with such result.. meanwhile we still have Cookie promoting illegal third party on official forum.. the failure is on too many level.. we need to start with a solid foundation and look at mesanna... as far as I know she been silent since the announce she did in July.

    Time for her walk of shame.. with a second post addressing the 2 failures july and december.. she deal with those cheater like a single mom with multiple kid with different dad does with fearmongering... aka: she's bad at it and it's pointless.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 507
    Playboy_1 said:
    Oreogl said:
    Playboy_1 said:
    Fenriswolf said:
    if there not a way a group of people that were previously using the banned client or that have been pvping for years can get together with the DEVs to discuss options that would help, or is that all stuff that has fallen by the wayside over the years?

    It cant be that hard to include features that pvpers want, that at the same time dont cause massive lag or create a disadvantage to other players

    Im assuming that most users of Orion were pvpers? If they are leaving because they cant cheat in the champ spawns then good riddance..
    It’s not about the champ spawns. I wish the developers would go read the Major PvP discords. 

    Main issues are dress/redress hasent been worked on kr finished
    cycling targets by notoriety…or smoothe grab bar (which just means it grabs bar easier) 
    can’t use exilag….
    cant record simple macros (you can with UO assist) so it’s legal. 

    Just simple things the base vanilla client has..like if regular basic UO had these upgrades (higher fps) customizable window) I believe  every pvper would be fine with UO assist. 

    Most of the pvpers play script free/ free shards and were planning on going to one about to come out, becuz dislike for scripts…but these free shards are client locked; with a good assurance (basic razor) with no script abilities.

    its not about the scripts, its about the playability… and just modernization. 

    Let’s be real here though.  Most pvpers these days moved away from UOA in lieu of scripts that allowed auto healing, auto chug/cure, etc.

    this isn’t about more FPS it’s the removal of the automation they used including scripts that completely allowed auto combat.  

    In short it is definitely about scripts.  You’d be in a minority if it isn’t.

    Perhaps you can send some requests to ClassicUO for some of the more simple requests.
    Not true; most these pvpers are quitting for script free / free shards. It’s not about the scripts, for 99%. 
    Sure I’ve heard some leaving due to it.  But this here explains that it was a large issue to begin with.
  • KingKing Posts: 95


  • ArmyArmy Posts: 44
    I don’t think they have accounts here, never mind discord
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