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Grimbeard · December 6

https://community.stratics.com/threads/uo-com-shattered-sanctum-event-expansion.433225/#post-3167315

username · December 6

Eh, don't think we should be linking to unofficial shady fan sites.
Click here instead: https://uo.com/2024/12/05/shattered-sanctum-event-expansion/

Curious how the spawn rate will be.... curious how this will work out.
Very surprised this is a global fix, not just Atlantic, as all other shards players seemed to say it wasn't a problem. It's going to spread out their spawn even more, unless again the spawn rate will still be decent in the towns and dungeon at same time. Time will tell. Also, this isn't really much of a fix, just hoping a solution by dilution.

And damn the solen hive, that's the best we could come up with. Ugh. Long skinny corridors. Won't be much room for spawn or to move around. Hope the AFK penalty thing is set up for this one, the AFK bots in towns is getting a bit ridiculous.

Lord_Nythrax · December 6

username said:
And damn the solen hive, that's the best we could come up with. Ugh. Long skinny corridors. Won't be much room for spawn or to move around. Hope the AFK penalty thing is set up for this one, the AFK bots in towns is getting a bit ridiculous.

Since there's no need to move between towns, no doors, etc. I suspect the solen hive will become the premier bot zoo. We'll see if it makes the cities any more livable. I suspect it's going to remain a snore without any stronger spawn.

Grimbeard · December 6

All we really care about is provo being fixed

firec · December 6

@Kyronix Seems like you have been listening to some of the concerns people have had. For this, are the solen hives going to be actively invaded all the time? Or is it going to be added to the city rotation? Additionally, the change to poisoning seems like a minor change for the traps. I personally haven't had issues with it, but what I HAVE had issues with is 1) people raiding the chest that I detected 2) overall loot from the chests 3) chests disappearing fairly quickly, especially during heavy spawn. As for the fighting portion of this event, to this point on ATL I have only been able to play in Fel. Which has been mediocre at best, since I would prefer to play with my PVM character in a PVM environment, as opposed to a PVP one.

Going back to the list...

1) In high density environments, people will sit on top of my chest as soon as I detect it. They will wait to hear the click, or not, they might just be trying to open it nonstop... And they will immediately take whatever they can from it. As a treasure hunter as my main, and a thief I made for this, it feels once again doing all the work for someone else's benefit.

2) The loot quality in the chests is so bad compared to just farming the rest of the event. I can get upwards to 60 drops an hour on my samp with a potion... There is absolutely no way my sneaker will ever achieve that. As such, the incentive to participate in this portion of the event is much, much lower. What would it look like if you added either: Increased drop rates for the shattered sanctum items OR keeping that portion the same, but adding some random actual rewards from the events into the chests at a relatively high rarity? This would greatly encourage people to try this portion. However.... This would also exacerbate the first issue.

3) Some of the chests I have detected have disappeared before being able to loot them, often times due to too many paragons or monsters around. Is it possible to add some sort of pre-loot timer? Such that a chest that hasn't been popped / disarmed stays longer than a chest that has been raided?

Anyhow, the few other people who are participating in this portion of the event would probably be able to chime in on this as well.

PlayerSkillFTW · December 6

On Atlantic, there's a bot in every pot, a bot on every street corner, and a bot behind every blade of grass. The Solen Hive will likely become completely infested with bots as well. The undead invading Britannia's cities aren't the biggest problem, it's the bots invading the cities. Make it to where you can't recall out of the Solen Tunnels, then lure all the bots into them, and blow up the exit holes with Greater Explosion Potions to permanently seal in the bots and entomb them forever.

loop · December 6

I think the addition of the Solen Hives is really neat and unexpected. Won’t judge before it’s live. The team has been quite responsive to feedback with this event, which is great to see. I was a bit concerned things would slow down for the prodo shards since NL was released, but we actually have quite a bit going on at the moment.

KroDuK · December 6

So their solution was ultimately to do a PRO bots region?!

Is it still impossible to leave the tunnel when u died/can'T interact with the holes?

The solution of dying inside tunnel to a stronger paragon going to be the stuck menu for a new player?

What am I missing here..? 24/7 pro bot region, anti noob & only on trammel!?
Making this on Felucca would have been SOOO funny.. give me 2 paragon chests i could trap 10+ bots in those tunnel to grab the tamer to decimate them all at once.

Oreogl · December 6

Guys, it’s Atlantic. You’re going to have trains of bots everywhere.

At least let it go live before you complain about it.

KroDuK · December 6

Oreogl said:

Guys, it’s Atlantic. You’re going to have trains of bots everywhere.

At least let it go live before you complain about it.

Translator: Do not complain about bots on Ultima Online official shard under BS they're the main attendees/target audience; on this theme gated game.. wait to see the result.. except if your on ATL., y'all are doom.

P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C; embrace them do not fight them.. they've already won; just join them!
Or give up on UO; ATL and PvP if you don't want to do illegal third party!

PS: not on my watch! even if y'all gave up/ washed up..

Cookie · December 6

KroDuK said:
Oreogl said:
Guys, it’s Atlantic. You’re going to have trains of bots everywhere.

At least let it go live before you complain about it.
Translator: Do not complain about bots on Ultima Online official shard under BS they're the main attendees/target audience; on this theme gated game.. wait to see the result.. except if your on ATL., y'all are doom.

P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C; embrace them do not fight them.. they've already won; just join them!
Or give up on UO; ATL and PvP if you don't want to do illegal third party!

PS: not on my watch! even if y'all gave up/ washed up..

Do you wash the dishes in the sink with washing up liquid and a dishcloth, or do you use a dishwasher?

My wife loves to use the dishwasher, but I argue it takes away the nostalgia and that feeling of it being real, it automates the process, and this is never a good thing.

I'm pretty certain you are like me on this one, you've got to do it the old nostalgic way, we should never progress or improve.

Cookie · December 6

Re the changes.

An extra full-time location was specifically asked for. Solen Hive is interesting, if it is full time, all the bots will go there, although the teleporters will be interesting, that will restrict them a lot as there are a lot of levels, and teleporters in Solen Hive.

3 good fixes, and a reduction of difficulty level for rogues, which should help a little.

Oreogl · December 6

KroDuK said:

Oreogl said:

Guys, it’s Atlantic. You’re going to have trains of bots everywhere.

At least let it go live before you complain about it.

Translator: Do not complain about bots on Ultima Online official shard under BS they're the main attendees/target audience; on this theme gated game.. wait to see the result.. except if your on ATL., y'all are doom.

P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C; embrace them do not fight them.. they've already won; just join them!
Or give up on UO; ATL and PvP if you don't want to do illegal third party!

PS: not on my watch! even if y'all gave up/ washed up..

That isn’t what that says at all. You’re complaining about a change that isn’t even live yet. That’s what that says. Maybe wait, and then provide feedback.

keven2002 · December 6

I've done maybe 20-30min of testing on Origin. My thoughts:

The density of spawn on Origin with nobody else there (that I saw) was good, IMO. Everything counts too (solen / ant lions /etc). What is hard to test here is load balancing with 30-40 bot trains running around killing everything.
It doesn't appear that they changed "how" things spawn; ie there are still those bonfire things where the monsters spawn. This will likely mean ATL will have the campers hanging out down there. Not a huge issue but I think it needs to be heavily policed with that anti-afk flag where damage cannot be done.
There is a necromage that will spawn down in the tunnels. I decided to kill him but I don't think it's worth it. Getting 2 drops for about 10min of attacking seems too little.

I applaud the Devs for trying something to help with the lag/spawn and good karma on fixing some of the rogue pieces for the event; definitely a step in the right direction. For me, on ATL, the question will be how is the spawn density going to be impacted if we get all the bots running around in the hives and the legit players are in the towns? Hopefully it's still the same amount of spawn as if everyone in the tunnels was in the town.

AmberWitch · December 6

I just did a run through for about 30 minutes. I cleared the SW area with no problem and at the end only saw one other person. Then I went to the NW corner and didn't take too long to get targeted by multiple high level paragons.

Only problems I'm seeing is that when the Necromancer was announced it is difficult to try to locate him and I didn't see any healers down there.

Grimbeard · December 6

AmberWitch said:

I just did a run through for about 30 minutes. I cleared the SW area with no problem and at the end only saw one other person. Then I went to the NW corner and didn't take too long to get targeted by multiple high level paragons.
Only problems I'm seeing is that when the Necromancer was announced it is difficult to try to locate him and I didn't see any healers down there.

But did you die

AmberWitch · December 6

Grimbeard said:

But did you die

You're going to be shocked that I didn't aren't cha?

keven2002 · December 7

keven2002 said:

I've done maybe 20-30min of testing on Origin. My thoughts:

The density of spawn on Origin with nobody else there (that I saw) was good, IMO. Everything counts too (solen / ant lions /etc). What is hard to test here is load balancing with 30-40 bot trains running around killing everything.
It doesn't appear that they changed "how" things spawn; ie there are still those bonfire things where the monsters spawn. This will likely mean ATL will have the campers hanging out down there. Not a huge issue but I think it needs to be heavily policed with that anti-afk flag where damage cannot be done.
There is a necromage that will spawn down in the tunnels. I decided to kill him but I don't think it's worth it. Getting 2 drops for about 10min of attacking seems too little.
I applaud the Devs for trying something to help with the lag/spawn and good karma on fixing some of the rogue pieces for the event; definitely a step in the right direction. For me, on ATL, the question will be how is the spawn density going to be impacted if we get all the bots running around in the hives and the legit players are in the towns? Hopefully it's still the same amount of spawn as if everyone in the tunnels was in the town.

I did another hour on Origin. Here is what else I found:

I saw one other person in there this time but we decided to clear separate areas so the spawn density was still pretty good (IMO). There were a few areas that accumulated paragons and I did end up dying a couple times (missing one swing in a heavy spawn is all it takes lol). Overall - I think for Origin and other less populated shards the spawn density is good...I am interested to see what it will look like for ATL though because I do not think the current amount will satisfy all the bots people running around.
The tunnels work like any other town where it "starts", stuff spawns, necromage spawns, then it "ends" (ie stuff stops spawning). After 5min or so it restarts, but will switch out the "high end" monster with a different one. I started with LL and the second one they were replaced with Skele Drakes.
The spawn DOES drop stuff after the message is given that the invasion is over (I think that maybe it wasn't before in the towns?).

Personally, I think the addition of the solen hives will help make for a better event; it will for sure improve things on all shards outside of ATL. That said, I do think the solen hives will be a bot heaven on ATL as it's an easier version of getting drops compared to the town. I do feel some sort of way on that given that it makes it that much easier for bots while still making the average single player still need to grind for drops (either competing in the tunnels or grinding in the towns). I think the biggest thing on ATL will be what the spawn density is like AND how much they police the bots (technically the hives should be much easier to catch bots as it's a smaller area).

Hats off to the Dev team for this update/upgrade for all non-ATL shards; I really do not see a negative from it.

KroDuK · December 7

keven2002 said:

Hats off to the Dev team for this update/upgrade for all non-ATL shards; I really do not see a negative from it.

Good lord.. they just made a MORE rewarding zone than cities (knowing ants count toward the artifacts count) plus it's 24/7 AND protected (trammel only)

A bot heaven... tell me u botting without telling me you are botting. *smh*

If this was Felucca only.. I could understand the move.. but here they legit giving more cookies to cheaters.. pushing us EVEN MORE toward botting and third party frame skipping with such move.

Why would u be immerse into participating in the town invasion "event" when u could sit and monitor a couple bots working for you for even MORE reward soon enough on top of being 24/7, u'll do the train once per day place your bots and keep an eye on them every 15 min, instead of moving them every 90min and be nervous when u have someone hunting your bots on the previous most rewarding zone (fel cities)... PLUS THEY ARE PROTECTED/ trammel.. total madness.

Maybe u should review your glasses prescription.
PS: anyone that saying sit and watch.. u hvn'T tested it.. I don't need to taste poo to recognize poo. I mean c'mon now!

keven2002 · December 7

KroDuK said:

keven2002 said:

Hats off to the Dev team for this update/upgrade for all non-ATL shards; I really do not see a negative from it.

Good lord.. they just made a MORE rewarding zone than cities (knowing ants count toward the artifacts count) plus it's 24/7 AND protected (trammel only)

A bot heaven... tell me u botting without telling me you are botting. *smh*

If this was Felucca only.. I could understand the move.. but here they legit giving more cookies to cheaters.. pushing us EVEN MORE toward botting and third party frame skipping with such move.

Why would u be immerse into participating in the town invasion "event" when u could sit and monitor a couple bots working for you for even MORE reward soon enough on top of being 24/7, u'll do the train once per day place your bots and keep an eye on them every 15 min, instead of moving them every 90min and be nervous when u have someone hunting your bots on the previous most rewarding zone (fel cities)... PLUS THEY ARE PROTECTED/ trammel.. total madness.

Maybe u should review your glasses prescription.
PS: anyone that saying sit and watch.. u hvn'T tested it.. I don't need to taste poo to recognize poo. I mean c'mon now!

First off - you don't anything about me so trying to say I have anything to do with botting is a complete joke. You obviously do not read my posts or you have issues with your memory.

Second - You are saying it's 24/7 but it's not because it follows the same exact schedule as the towns. It shuts down for 5-10min like the towns. You are showing your ignorance and/or lack of actual playing the game because anyone that has used a warrior for a whole invasion knows you need to make repairs on your weapon after 1 invasion and armor after 2 maybe 3... The solen hives are no different than a town.

Third - My post is coming from someone who does not bot and I stand by it that there isn't a negative. Could there be MORE done? Yes absolutely, but this update isn't a bad thing. Instead of crying non-stop about bots; why don't you tell me what the negatives are for the average non-botter?? Why are you so angry that the Devs made it possible to get more drops in general? To take your own words... tell me you're a botter without telling me you are a botter. You are mad because you won't be able to keep the price of drops high. Sorry that you are greedy and looking to make money off the event and the Devs hurt your profits;l guess you will just need to add an extra bot account

KroDuK · December 7

keven2002 said:

First off - you don't anything about me so trying to say I have anything to do with botting is a complete joke.

I stop there.. if your not joking.. i mean bro.. stop writting brick wall and go read something.. u need to elavate your VERY limited "vision"

Won't gonna lie.. u give that vibe of someone botting high sea and running around with a heal pocket bot healer on trammel.. no way u can be that pro bot while being legit.

If u do not fight the bots on UO in 2024 (they making every legit player life a nightmare, specially during those events) in my book.. you are one of them.. maybe u only doing it sneaky like alone on high sea.. but still.. u have to be using it to not feel gross about all those bots running around.. on legends it's easy 9 bots for 1 players u see in open world.

Edit: I try to finish your text but dude.. you have a very limited vison this is as far as i could do with that tunnel vision.. ex:

keven2002 said:
Second - You are saying it's 24/7 but it's not because it follows the same exact schedule as the towns. It shuts down for 5-10min like the towns. You are showing your ignorance and/or lack of actual playing the game because...

this is so dumb bro.. i wouldn't know where to start.. re-read my text.. u have the answer.. here a tip: this is a 24/7 zone no need to move your BOTS once u have place them.. just monitor them while touching urself.. previously they had to move them every ~90min.. plus now they can keep killing stuff and earn artifact even when the invasion "ended" depending on the numbers of bots on the zone all that while being PROTECTED; tram only (GMs also protecting them) and this is the most rewarding zone, even more than felucca (cuz of ants+24/7).. they could go non stop even during breaks.. I mean.. c'mon now! go get that new prescription or read a book! Open that vision..

keven2002 said:
I really do not see a negative from it.

Edit: a small tip to the dev.. if u REALLY trying to help legit and not the bots.. understanding the bots user would be your first homework.. cuz u really not doing a good job here.. u do the opposite.. helping bots user even more.. giving them a heaven and pushing us legit; even more toward illegal third party.

Today was the day i was supposed to become governor of Yew on Legends.. but i'm not sponsoring what BS is doing..¸hvn't log on UO for ~10days after waiting for a theme gated event for months.. this is how bad y'all doing at BS studio.. grossing out legit user while spoiling bots users EVEN MORE.

loop · December 7

KroDuk, are you okay?

KroDuK · December 7

loop said:

KroDuk, are you okay?

This is a warzone!
Move aside civilian!! (and go read books)
Assuming your not part of the ennemy!!!

https://uo.com/2024/07/22/the-war-on-unapproved-3rd-party-programs/

Meanwhile, we doing those kind of changes.. pro bot 24/7 ants grind.

Cookie · December 7

KroDuK said:

Today was the day i was supposed to become governor of Yew on Legends..

Was it written in the stars ?

KroDuK · December 7

Nah from memory dec 7th, was the day u can start a new election.. Yew governor sit is empty.. I was like let's control a buff.. So i been giving my bods in YEW on the alt account.. I donated ~100k ingots on the main account.. i was rdy, but yeah..

This was before participating in one of those event.. knowing the game is now a theme gated game (cuz of the heretic items).. those event are now MAIN content.. but made for non-people like you.. "pro bots" for us by us.

Cookie · December 7

KroDuK said:

Nah from memory dec 7th, was the day u can start a new election.. Yew governor sit is empty.. I was like let's control a buff.. So i been giving my bods in YEW on the alt account.. I donated ~100k ingots on the main account.. i was rdy, but yeah..

This was before participating in one of those event.. knowing the game is now a theme gated game (cuz of the heretic items).. those event are now MAIN content.. but made for non-people like you.. "pro bots" for us by us.

Take words like "theme gated" out of your vocabulary.

And "Heretic" of course.

You will find your life improves.

I have tried to help you a lot, you are not seeing it.

Grimbeard · December 7

I wonder what krunies first language is

KroDuK · December 7

Grimbeard said:

I wonder what krunies first language is

I wonder why u have a forum alt in McDougle

French, Spanish and english is turd. (french canadian)

I've been told by aussie and UK people.. u can read me, easy.
Never been told that from american tho.. weirdly enough.

PS: even in french some people can't understand me.. it's not a language barrier thing.

Grimbeard · December 7

KroDuK said:

Grimbeard said:

I wonder what krunies first language is

I wonder why u have a forum alt in McDougle

French, Spanish and english is turd. (french canadian)

I've been told by aussie and UK people.. u can read me, easy.
Never been told that from american tho.. weirdly enough.

PS: even in french some people can't understand me.. it's not a language barrier thing.

I think everyone knows whos I am on either account there was a time I lost access to old McDougle email so I started using Grimbeard now I forget whos logged in

KroDuK · December 8

Grimbeard said:
I think everyone knows whos I am

ok..

I had no idea before Paiwan intervention that u were..

Image: https://forum.uo.com/uploads/editor/v2/cg219pmmv9ni.png

"whos I am" and commenting on the quality of my english. Good lord.

Grimbeard · December 8

KroDuK said:

Grimbeard said:
I think everyone knows whos I am

ok..

I had no idea before Paiwan intervention that u were..

"whos I am" and commenting on the quality of my english. Good lord.

I was just trying to give you an out for sounding do ignorant but oks

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