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Idea to bring back Bane dragons

GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,183
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Add them to champ spawn or better yet just to Harry so worth doing again 

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  • creampiecreampie Posts: 100
    Grimbeard said:
    Add them to champ spawn or better yet just to Harry so worth doing again 

    already anwsered by kyronix they wont...so they let us have a little lesser version of the bane with wildfire ostard. it s a low intensity bane
  • shootgunshootgun Posts: 321
    edited February 22
    creampie said:
    already anwsered by kyronix they wont...so they let us have a little lesser version of the bane with wildfire ostard. it s a low intensity bane

    What kind of a BS is this? So few select can have them but the others can not? As a tamer main I am disappointed.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,860
    shootgun said:
    creampie said:
    already anwsered by kyronix they wont...so they let us have a little lesser version of the bane with wildfire ostard. it s a low intensity bane

    What kind of a BS is this? So few select can have them but the others can not? As a tamer main I am disappointed.
    A cu is better.  You are missing nothing. 
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  • shootgunshootgun Posts: 321
    Pawain said:
    A cu is better.  You are missing nothing. 
    Not in PvP.

  • AtomicBettyAtomicBetty Posts: 291
    Grimbeard said:
    Add them to champ spawn or better yet just to Harry so worth doing again 

    Even if they were shard bound players would just transfer to dead shards to farm them (since you can claim the statue and transfer with the pet) and they would have no value pretty quick. Not that I care if they were to be added.
  • VmaxVmax Posts: 13
    Got one on Origin via one of my character transfers from Atlantic years ago now (and a stash of blackrock stew). Price check?
    Since 10/2/97!
  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,860
    edited February 22
    shootgun said:
    Pawain said:
    A cu is better.  You are missing nothing. 
    Not in PvP.

    You PvP but can afford a 5% SSI blank ring. 

    There is 100+ items that have been in UO for a short period of time that you cant get now.

    This is a game that lasts forever.  We were never intended to have everything.  Day 1 they had server start items that 1 person could get.

    There are thousands of Banes out there for 1 Plat, you can own one.
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  • usernameusername Posts: 806
    edited February 23
    shootgun said:
    creampie said:
    already anwsered by kyronix they wont...so they let us have a little lesser version of the bane with wildfire ostard. it s a low intensity bane

    What kind of a BS is this? So few select can have them but the others can not? As a tamer main I am disappointed.
    Wildfire ostard or buy a bane dragon. They're plentiful. Just buy one, seriously. If it's so good you'd have done it already so there's definitely some hidden agenda? People spam banes every other day on Atlantic gen chat. You can find one easy, they're definitely NOT for select few. Probably cheaper than one piece of gear you use. There are SO MANY things in this game you cannot get anymore and THIS is the one you complain about? Stuff from more recent ToTs are more expensive and harder to come by, you should be thankful the bane dragons are so plentiful.

    Bane dragons were from the Shadow of Virtue - Rise of the Bane Chosen event cycle so it would make absolutely no sense to re-release them anyways.

    Break lore, break storyline, break immersion because you're too cheap to buy one?  :D

    I got an idea, why not just have the TC command on live 'give arties' and give everyone everything?

    Pawain said:

    There are thousands of Banes out there for 1 Plat, you can own one.
    What ignoreduser#001 said is correct. 
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  • shootgunshootgun Posts: 321
    edited February 23
    I am back after a decade long break. My net worth in the game is 20 mil currently. Yet, I would like to enjoy parts of the game that are hard to enjoy without spending a plat or two. This is my agenda...

    I cant blame you guys though, somebody asking for a 1 or 2 plat pet/item to return to game so he can enjoy those things must sound extremely retarded to you guys. I am sure for most of the player base, that kept playing for decades, a plat or two is just a pocket change.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,860
    shootgun said:
    I am back after a decade long break. My net worth in the game is 20 mil currently. Yet, I would like to enjoy parts of the game that are hard to enjoy without spending a plat or two. This is my agenda...

    I cant blame you guys though, somebody asking for a 1 or 2 plat pet/item to return to game so he can enjoy those things must sound extremely retarded to you guys. I am sure for most of the player base, that kept playing for decades, a plat or two is just a pocket change.
    I don't have Plats, I don't have a Bane.  

    I enjoy playing the UO we have.

    I have a Bane Ki-Rin.




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  • usernameusername Posts: 806
    edited February 23
    shootgun said:
    I am back after a decade long break. My net worth in the game is 20 mil currently. Yet, I would like to enjoy parts of the game that are hard to enjoy without spending a plat or two. This is my agenda...

    Yes. You want everything handed to you and you don't want to pay anything for it. I understand completely your agenda: UO socialism.

    shootgun said:
    I cant blame you guys though, somebody asking for a 1 or 2 plat pet/item to return to game so he can enjoy those things must sound extremely retarded to you guys. I am sure for most of the player base, that kept playing for decades, a plat or two is just a pocket change.
    The gaslighting with this one is incredible. You do not need a bane dragon to 'enjoy those things'. There are tons of PVPers that do not own a bane dragon or do not use them and are fine. Play a mage, play a dexxer, etc.

    You have 20m and expecting to have best in slot items for PVP? ..........................................

    1p is NOTHING anymore. Balron Bone armor is pushing 1p alone and that item is only a few years old. 'No name' gear, 9+ mod jewelry, even jewelry that is still obtainable, splinter weapons, etc. anything else that is 'good' in the game is going to be expensive and in most cases more expensive than a bane dragon. You'd be better off asking for THOSE things to return than a bane dragon as they are more generally useful.
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  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,253
    shootgun said:
    I am back after a decade long break. My net worth in the game is 20 mil currently. Yet, I would like to enjoy parts of the game that are hard to enjoy without spending a plat or two. This is my agenda...

    I cant blame you guys though, somebody asking for a 1 or 2 plat pet/item to return to game so he can enjoy those things must sound extremely retarded to you guys. I am sure for most of the player base, that kept playing for decades, a plat or two is just a pocket change.

    I think the part you are missing is that you can use a wild fire ozzy instead of a bane and get pretty close. Yea I get it, it's not the same intensity as a bane but if you want to use that thought process you must have a full suit of no-name legendaries because that's kind of the equivalent we are talking about here. I'm guessing you don't have a full suit of no-name legendary items (if you do you can easily sell one or 2 for plats and get your own bane) but you still PvP. Bottom line is that you might not have the best suit with the most mods (or bane with the highest intensity) but you can get pretty darn close and still PvP.

    I do not think they need to bring the banes back and I was on hiatus when they had the bane event so I never was able to tame one myself. Little off-topic but the irony isn't lost on me that for the 1.5-2 year period I didn't play UO there was something cool like the shadow virtue event where a lot of awesome things were introduced (for a limited time) and now it's been like 4+ years of us getting the same cookie cutter events with many of the same rewards circulating. I definitely mistimed my hiatus :(
  • quickbladequickblade Posts: 323
    UO has to be one of the only mmos where they release limited time stuff like bane dragon, I wish they’d bring them back I mean limited time stuff like cosmetics etc I’m ok with but game changing items like bane dragons shouldn’t be limited 
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,183
    Right now there is little to no reason to go to fel adding them back to fel only would give people a reason to go 
  • usernameusername Posts: 806
    edited February 23
    UO has to be one of the only mmos where they release limited time stuff like bane dragon, I wish they’d bring them back I mean limited time stuff like cosmetics etc I’m ok with but game changing items like bane dragons shouldn’t be limited 
    It's not and you're incredibly wrong. Now I haven't played ALL of the MMOs, but, the few I have (Wow, Everquest, Runescape and Eve Online) ALL have limited time items that are best-in-slot powerful, non-cosmetic. 

    Again, let's not forget that these bane dragons are not only plentiful but relatively inexpensive PLUS we've gotten wildfire ostards which are 95% as good for 1/4 of the price. If you're using banes for top tier PVP they're your least concern price wise. They really should be 5-10x more expensive if they're as good and rare as everyone is saying lol but wonder why they aren't?

    These 'no-name' armors with 50 mods and jewelry with 20 mods should be your focus, you might actually have an argument there.

    Please, stop.
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  • SkettSkett Posts: 1,471
    I don't remember if banes spawned on both sides of Stygian Abyss dungeon but I trained over 25 of them here not Fel (have 3 left) it was very easy to get them.




  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,860
    edited February 23
    Skett said:
    I don't remember if banes spawned on both sides of Stygian Abyss dungeon but I trained over 25 of them here not Fel (have 3 left) it was very easy to get them.




    I thought they were from the Ophidian \ Bane war.  I chose the Ophidian side so I killed them when I knocked the riders off. (there goes 1plat,there goes another)

    But the internet said they were in SA also.  I went there asap but never noticed them. Their dark cover blended them in too much I guess.
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  • quickbladequickblade Posts: 323
    username said:
    UO has to be one of the only mmos where they release limited time stuff like bane dragon, I wish they’d bring them back I mean limited time stuff like cosmetics etc I’m ok with but game changing items like bane dragons shouldn’t be limited 
    It's not and you're incredibly wrong. Now I haven't played ALL of the MMOs, but, the few I have (Wow, Everquest, Runescape and Eve Online) ALL have limited time items that are best-in-slot powerful, non-cosmetic. 


    I didn't know WoW best in slot items were limited time items... im surprised honestly, but I just wonder what was the reasoning behind making banes stop spawning, anyone know the argument? were they meant to be tamed in first place ? im confused...
  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,860
    They were not that great of a pet for a tamer when they came out.  They are better now because we can train them 2 times.

    I never saw anyone with one before the pet revamp.  It was g dragons, cus , and nightmares.
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  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,860
    edited February 23
    If they want to bring them back, put them in that city in Ilsh where guys already ride black swampy looking things.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Posts: 2,420
    quickblade said:
    username said:
    UO has to be one of the only mmos where they release limited time stuff like bane dragon, I wish they’d bring them back I mean limited time stuff like cosmetics etc I’m ok with but game changing items like bane dragons shouldn’t be limited 
    It's not and you're incredibly wrong. Now I haven't played ALL of the MMOs, but, the few I have (Wow, Everquest, Runescape and Eve Online) ALL have limited time items that are best-in-slot powerful, non-cosmetic. 


    I didn't know WoW best in slot items were limited time items... im surprised honestly, but I just wonder what was the reasoning behind making banes stop spawning, anyone know the argument? were they meant to be tamed in first place ? im confused...
    For the same reason Dread Warhorses were, MONEY.  If they still spawned they would not be worth as much.
  • shootgunshootgun Posts: 321
    edited February 23
    For the same reason Dread Warhorses were, MONEY.  If they still spawned they would not be worth as much.
    From what I have seen, bane dragons have one or two uses where they shine. For everything else, cus and tritons are a lot better. Even if bane dragons were spamming everywhere many people would not use them I believe.
  • quickbladequickblade Posts: 323
    username said:
    UO has to be one of the only mmos where they release limited time stuff like bane dragon, I wish they’d bring them back I mean limited time stuff like cosmetics etc I’m ok with but game changing items like bane dragons shouldn’t be limited 
    It's not and you're incredibly wrong. Now I haven't played ALL of the MMOs, but, the few I have (Wow, Everquest, Runescape and Eve Online) ALL have limited time items that are best-in-slot powerful, non-cosmetic. 


    I didn't know WoW best in slot items were limited time items... im surprised honestly, but I just wonder what was the reasoning behind making banes stop spawning, anyone know the argument? were they meant to be tamed in first place ? im confused...
    For the same reason Dread Warhorses were, MONEY.  If they still spawned they would not be worth as much.
    Isn't the devs goal to control inflation, it seems to me that making limited time stuff just cause more inflation and goes against their logic.
  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Posts: 2,420
    shootgun said:
    For the same reason Dread Warhorses were, MONEY.  If they still spawned they would not be worth as much.
    From what I have seen, bane dragons have one or two uses where they shine. For everything else, cus and tritons are a lot better. Even if bane dragons were spamming everywhere many people would not use them I believe.
    PvPers pay big for the mounts they want.  Cus and Tritons are more PvM
  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Posts: 2,420
    quickblade said:
    username said:
    UO has to be one of the only mmos where they release limited time stuff like bane dragon, I wish they’d bring them back I mean limited time stuff like cosmetics etc I’m ok with but game changing items like bane dragons shouldn’t be limited 
    It's not and you're incredibly wrong. Now I haven't played ALL of the MMOs, but, the few I have (Wow, Everquest, Runescape and Eve Online) ALL have limited time items that are best-in-slot powerful, non-cosmetic. 


    I didn't know WoW best in slot items were limited time items... im surprised honestly, but I just wonder what was the reasoning behind making banes stop spawning, anyone know the argument? were they meant to be tamed in first place ? im confused...
    For the same reason Dread Warhorses were, MONEY.  If they still spawned they would not be worth as much.
    Isn't the devs goal to control inflation, it seems to me that making limited time stuff just cause more inflation and goes against their logic.
    Where did you hear that it was the DEVs job to control inflation.  UO is a sandbox and with the amount of gold in the game the players set the prices.
  • PlayerSkillFTWPlayerSkillFTW Posts: 611
    edited February 24
    Pawain said:
    shootgun said:
    creampie said:
    already anwsered by kyronix they wont...so they let us have a little lesser version of the bane with wildfire ostard. it s a low intensity bane

    What kind of a BS is this? So few select can have them but the others can not? As a tamer main I am disappointed.
    A cu is better.  You are missing nothing. 

    Bane Dragons have more offensive power than Cus, even in PvM, they're just not as tanky (no self Healing). They have no wasted specials (so they'll spam AI more often), and they can poison multiple attackers with their innate Poison Skin, and even deal damage/poison at range with their Poison Spit. I recently got paid 500M to fully train a Chiv+AI Bane Dragon for someone. Got it to 5 slots, and 120d all it's skills within 3.5 days (even GMed it's Poisoning).

    Speaking of No-Name Legendaries, i saw these the other day. Wish we could still get good Luck Legendary Artifacts like them.

  • quickbladequickblade Posts: 323
    username said:
    UO has to be one of the only mmos where they release limited time stuff like bane dragon, I wish they’d bring them back I mean limited time stuff like cosmetics etc I’m ok with but game changing items like bane dragons shouldn’t be limited 
    It's not and you're incredibly wrong. Now I haven't played ALL of the MMOs, but, the few I have (Wow, Everquest, Runescape and Eve Online) ALL have limited time items that are best-in-slot powerful, non-cosmetic. 


    I didn't know WoW best in slot items were limited time items... im surprised honestly, but I just wonder what was the reasoning behind making banes stop spawning, anyone know the argument? were they meant to be tamed in first place ? im confused...
    For the same reason Dread Warhorses were, MONEY.  If they still spawned they would not be worth as much.
    Isn't the devs goal to control inflation, it seems to me that making limited time stuff just cause more inflation and goes against their logic.
    Where did you hear that it was the DEVs job to control inflation.  UO is a sandbox and with the amount of gold in the game the players set the prices.
    While you might be right its players that set prices, Devs have a goal in controlling economy so it doesnt derails off track. They have a 175m maximum price on vendors there is a reason for it, if they could they would want more gold sinks in the game, but making OP gear or OP pets limited time and doesnt spawn anymore was a mistake in my opinion. At this point they should just put random stats bane dragons for sale for 1 plat from npc stables as a gold sink. 

    Stupid game with OP unbalanced gear, OP pets that dont spawn anymore (this doesnt matter for pvp tho with pets nerfed to the ground), ramping cheatings.... who would want to pvp in such environnement, no wonder everyones quitting PvP
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,253
    PlayerSkillFTW said:


    Speaking of No-Name Legendaries, i saw these the other day. Wish we could still get good Luck Legendary Artifacts like them.

    To my knowledge, no name legendary shields do still spawn in the game but they wont go over the 8 mod cap (this is at least as of 3-4 years ago when I got my no-name luck shield). The shield I have in my luck suit is similar to the one you posted from the luck/DCI/SC standpoint and has some stats on it too (not as many as your shield) with +18 energy resist.
  • shootgunshootgun Posts: 321
    PlayerSkillFTW said:


    I think either of those pieces are worth more than everything I own in game and real life...

  • PlayerSkillFTWPlayerSkillFTW Posts: 611
    edited February 26
    shootgun said:
    I think either of those pieces are worth more than everything I own in game and real life...

    Here's the craziest no-name Legendary Artifact i've ever seen. This was enhanced with Heartwood too.


    Hell, i'd be happy if Legendary Artifacts could spawn with Auspicious/of Fortune. That way i could use Auspicious+of Wizardry or Arcane+of Fortune Legendaries for 150 Luck+LRC+LMC+INT+Mana+MR+high Resists (still fitting within 8 properties).
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