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It's CYA time, and thats the best excuse they could arrive at in a short time
Please make the Grizzled Mare a 5 slot mount, it's incredibly rare and deserves it. Some of us have been waiting a long time for this simple addition.
i actually countered with this as well last night while speaking with Kyronix, i cant remember exactly how he worded it but it was something to the effect of ...yes they are a reward , but they arent in the same grouping of reward as a vet reward is considered to be. and that they didnt "as of last night" have any plans of deleting em items in idocs......although personally i think the majority of them look trashy, and are just useless junk...id much rather see them deleted in idocs before seeing vet rewards deleted.....actually like i said im over it, they should just terminate idocs all together...delete it all.
Char statues should not be deleted and guild stones as well. Both are a way to remember someone or a guild in game. When I came back I went to a friend's idoc I asked everyone there just for her statue so I can have something to remeber her by.
Please dont delete them and guild stones.
Idocs are a huge playstyle in UO - just judging by all the posts everytime there's an idoc discussion you can see how popular a topic it is.
These changes they have made are making idocs much more accessible to everyone. It will just grow the playstyle- which is great. Anyone can now know where an idoc is, and when it will fall. That's one of the biggest advantage scripters had. And the new loot system with barrels is a great way of ensuring the loot is spread around more evenly across different participants. ie everyone gets a share, which is what everyone was begging for for the past few years.
People complaining about some aspects of these changes shouldn't lose sight of the fact that overall, these changes are a huge improvement over what was before.
Initially, I thought that deleting them would be an unneded loss to Ultima Online but now, I can see the point of "why" the Developers might want them deleted.
And, to be honest, it is to my opinion an agreeable with point....
It is true and a fact that A Veteran Reward is addressed to a specific account.
Then, the owner of THAT account has the right to do what they want with that Veteran Reward, that is, whether to keep it for themselves or whether to give it to another account/player....
So, having them "drop" from an IDOC would defeat that Account's owner will..... if the Veteran Account items were in that House, this means that the House owner wanted to KEEP them, not pass them to some other account.
So, by letting them drop with the Account, would be like going against the account that earned those Veteran Rewards in the first place....
So, looking at it under this perspective, I can see the logic of wanting Veteran Rewards be deleted and not passed on as IDOCs' drops....
On the other end, though, it is also necessary to consider the possibility, at least in theory, that over time, scripters may have stocked up a large number of these Veteran Rewards from past IDOCs so, this change might end up with the unwanted effect of benefitting scripters as their existing Stock of Veteran Rewards might become more valuable if, from now on, IDOCs will have their Veteran Rewards be deleted....
So it looks odd to me that a change to IDOCs asked by players who have had enough of scripters at IDOCs might, in the end, result in unwanted benefits to scripters....
The same is, I would imagine, with deleting commodity deeds and stackables from IDOCs....
If players will not be able to get these from IDOCs any more, because deleted, and likely we are talking of mainly Resources and Craftable ingredients for the most part, won't Scripters also benefit from such deletion when they might have in stock already, one would imagine, at least in theory, a large stock of Resources and Craftable materials from previous IDOCs ?
Not to mention, that, I would imagine, scripters would continue scripting in UO to gather Resources and Crafting ingredients....
So, it would look to me, deleting from IDOCs Commodity Deeds, Stacked Items which likely could be Resources and Crafting Materials, could likely end up penalizing the players who participate at IDOCs and result in an unwanted effect of benefitting Scripters....
Sure, it is an unwanted consequence, nonetheless, I cannot help not consider how players, for the large majority, to my impression, were asking for changes to IDOCs which would have stopped or at least hurt severely scripting...
I live in an area in the US nicknamed Tornado Alley.
I have lived here for a year and we have had a tornado come through.
And there is always what is referred to as high winds.
I know there is always a risk of tornados, but I love the area.
The current problem with subscriptions being 30 days...
my main account usually goes down at the end of every month.
Every year on my birthday, I can't play my main character...
Lets say a tornado or house fire destroys my home.
And my account doesn't get paid...
I don't always get an email, when an account goes down.
And the card used expires in July...
I have items in my house, that I would be devastated to lose.
account bound items that I love...
the wedding rings from our wedding 5 years ago...
the shard promotion lanterns.
ALL the soulstones that I keep in my houses, because its easier to switch skills...
rather than to switch chars all the time. (I used to do this after I lost my vet reward soulstones, when one of my houses fell years ago, buts its aggravating when you can't remember which char is holding them)
recently someone returned a soulstone to me, that was from an IDOC of mine.
I got the keep from my husband (when we were just friends) and it was one that he had there. Turns out that the soulstone belonged to someone else from an IDOC he went to there... which is how he got the keep to begin with.
It was the most wonderful feeling to know that a player kept something because they knew it was in my home. And it was returned to me.... One of the things people has asked for is to make the soulstones not worth cleanup points... so people at idocs don't throw them away (the scripters throw away anything & everything that are worth points). Instead of deleting the account bound/soul bound, commodity deeds, and veteran rewards... please send these items to the owners bank box. Have a gump when they return that says "You have account bounds items from an idoc , in order to retrieve these items , please pay 500 sovereigns now" And give them a set amount of time to retrieve them. And if they don't pay that fee... then they get deleted.
I know that if something ever happens that causes my homes to IDOC, with the proposed changes I know that I would never subscribe again... Its one thing to lose deco, but to lose personal items and veteran rewards... The thing about vet rewards, is we earned them. Whether they were chosen by us or being bought. We earned the gold that we spent to purchase them. And the thing about soulstones… I have lost one or two for each account when I had to stop playing years ago. Those wouldn't hurt as much as losing the 20 or so ones I currently have. These items should go into the players bank box... And if they don't return because they passed away... Then those are items that aren't in the game any more. And nobody is profiting from them.
it s the third stage of the patch and we pass from extreme right to extreme left whitin 2 weeks..it sadly need more than a month to fix idoc for good...they are trying to fix something big in a short time so it s not manage well
Many vet rewards are deco items or house utility items. If you do not understand why these are wanted, you are not a decorator. There are many hours of log in time used by players who are at home moving things around.
I once spent 72 hours over 2 weeks decorating 3 houses
and there are "a lot more" at IDOCS than vet rewards - however, a whole lot of it (majority even) is just gonna sit and decay or go for trash points because what is one person's treasure is not necessarily another's.
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Have had my castle for 6 years and am still trying to make it look nicer.
I have placed all my castle & keeps myself but 2. I don't like the aspect of deleting vet rewards, commodity deed, stackable items, house only items... whats left worth anything? Em event items from other shards. I never like those They was just a money grab items anyways. those should all be shard bound items. if your going to Delete vet rewards :Because idocer didn't earn them", well why are they able to be sold then ... those then also should be account bound items then.
Idocs is how i got all my resources Regs, wood, ingots. IDOCs are great easy way for laid back player to get resources without having to mule days on end for them. I don't know i don't get it Why you would go through all this to make idocs better for the common player but cut out the items that made it worth doing.
Unless your just slowly trying to make idocs not worth doing so you can just remove them from the game?
OH btw im selling a dragon statuette 500 mil
It was already a mistake, at least to my opinion, to make Soustones be possible to be turned in for Clean Up Points which destroyed many of them from players turning them for Clean Up Points, PLEASE, @Kyronix , @Bleak , do not get them deleted now by default.... one never knows, players might come back to Ultima Online and being able to find their Soulstones again could be a nice finding for them, bringing their coming back to Ultima Online in a much better lighting and mood.
the easy solution that we been asking FOR MONTHS, is to put everything into a moving crate and put on the owners bank and charge him a fee to retrieve when he comes back. HOW hard is that?
We been asking for Months and Months and instead you destroy 80% of all the items, Vet rewards, most deeds and than tell us that we cant have them because we didnt earn them???? well, the OWNER DID, so GIVE back to the owner, put everything back into his bank, so when he return he can have back, since he EARNED. LISTEN TO US.