Drop rate & Potion

Consider this my formal complaint...I don't get much time to play these events, so when i do. I always buy potions to improve my odds of getting drops. That being said, i log on last week and ran for an hour without using a potion and got nearly 35 drops. Not bad, so i used a potion. Odds improved greatly and i was able to nearly get 80 drops in an hour on 1 potion. 

Fast forward to today, i log on. Down the potion...32... THIRTY TWO DROPS in an hour on a potion!!!!! What in the hell is even going on here....They cant honestly expect ppl to use their hard earned money to buy these potions and this is the kind of drop rate i am getting now?? This is just not acceptable at all. I have never in my life seen such poor drop rates while using a potion. Am i bugged? Is anyone else experiencing this sort of issue or i am just having a one off? This will ultimately make me not spend any money on future potions if this is what i can expect from them. 

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  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,661
    I haven't experienced this using the luck potion; every time I do use one my drops are greatly increased. 

    I do think there was some sort of issue with the drop rate last week (I think I saw a Dev post about it somewhere that it was fixed) so if you were using it around then that might have been the reason. 

    One other thing that might cause a different drop rate from session to session would be the dungeon and how well you survive. Example would be that I feel like I do way better in Destard bc it's wide open and easy to kill stuff compared to like Terra which feels way harder to get to spawn. Also if you end up dying a few times and need to go get rezzed that will impact the time you are killing stuff. Probably an obvious thing but did want to call that out just in case. 
  • usernameusername Posts: 1,197
    edited October 28
    Trix said:
    Consider this my formal complaint...I don't get much time to play these events, so when i do. I always buy potions to improve my odds of getting drops. That being said, i log on last week and ran for an hour without using a potion and got nearly 35 drops. Not bad, so i used a potion. Odds improved greatly and i was able to nearly get 80 drops in an hour on 1 potion. 

    Fast forward to today, i log on. Down the potion...32... THIRTY TWO DROPS in an hour on a potion!!!!! What in the hell is even going on here....They cant honestly expect ppl to use their hard earned money to buy these potions and this is the kind of drop rate i am getting now?? This is just not acceptable at all. I have never in my life seen such poor drop rates while using a potion. Am i bugged? Is anyone else experiencing this sort of issue or i am just having a one off? This will ultimately make me not spend any money on future potions if this is what i can expect from them. 
    These events were never created with the average player in mind. They were always made for the bot armies of sampires. Proof is in the cheater discord; they consider these ToT events paydays by selling to legitimate players. Not even kidding. They call us fool peasants. 

    I went to the TOT area on Atlantic a few days ago in the Blood Dungeon and I didn't see any what I could tell were legitimate players. All were cracked out sampires, likely ran by 4-5 players max running groups of 10-30 bots. How do I know they were the same player? Identical suits, identically dyed, with imbued pieces crafted by the same crafter, identical steeds (chargers for some, ozz hiryu for others, new hiryu for some) that all followed the same pattern running around the dungeon that would cause them to clump up or bug out at the same area. All these cracked out bots were flying around with 100% precision and crazy speed from one mob to the next, inhuman reaction times.

    That's 100% why these items need to be account bound, but, they'll never learn and keep hemorrhaging legitimate players. They really do enjoy their temporary subscriptions they get during these events and fools that buy potions from the store. Just remember you are buying a potion to up your drop rate when these a single bot runner is pulling in 2000-4000 artifacts an hour, 23/7, for 3.5 months.

    DO NOT BUY POTIONS

    DO NOT BUY TURNINS/REWARDS FROM UNKNOWN PLAYERS/VEDORS


    otherwise you are just supporting it and feeding in to it
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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,492
    ^ The above only applies on Atlantic. ^
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  • usernameusername Posts: 1,197
    edited October 28
    Pawain said:
    ^ The above only applies on Atlantic. ^
    Excellent. Make sure to stay on your own shard and don't farm the Matriarch on Atlantic!  ;) Wouldn't want those pesky cross sharders farming our server to take it back to their dump.

    As a matter of fact, let's make all the Matriarch drops shard bound? Only fair right?

    @Kyronix @Parallax
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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,492
    edited October 28
    I'm fine with the lag and Gargs there, don't bother me at all.  I still get drops.

    Shard bound pets will be interesting and a game killer.

    I am the reason they started making gates to the Matriarch, Even Stacks does it now!
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  • UrgeUrge Posts: 1,376
    If it makes you feel better i'm up to 170 fire paintings now and i only got one little .1 sot in animal taming this week. 

    Uo has always been luck of the draw. 
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,352
    Pawain said:
    Shard bound pets will be interesting and a game killer.
     :D

    Only an ATL problem.. cuz he's a tamer and his tamer stuff ain't shard bound.

    I was playing on a dead shards; Legends, and bots and third party cheaters were problematic.
    Do not believe what Paiwan is telling.. tomorow and gonna do a 180.. like in the past week only; the house placement, calling out Popps and doing the same the very next day, or for McDougle stealing skill.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

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  • usernameusername Posts: 1,197
    KroDuK said:
     :D

    Only an ATL problem.. cuz he's a tamer and his tamer stuff ain't shard bound.

    I was playing on a dead shards; Legends, and bots and third party cheaters were problematic.
    Do not believe what Paiwan is telling.. tomorow and gonna do a 180.. like in the past week only; the house placement, calling out Popps and doing the same the very next day, or for McDougle stealing skill.
    Exactly. Funny shard bound pets would 'kill the game' but all these shard bound artifacts 'keep botters from farming my dead shard'. These people can't even get their stories straight  :tired_face:
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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,492
    edited 12:17AM
    I never said shard bound was good.  But yall go ahead and make stuff up.  You can leave a weapon or armor at your house to travel. Are we going to have shard stall for pets?

    I know its difficult for the two of you who don't play, to understand game mechanics.  

    Our "bots" are players legally dragging toons. You can talk to them in chat. They go a different direction when they see me, My Macer can wipe out these 1 and 2 hit mobs very quickly, so they would be left with nothing if they follow me.

    Maybe make a Macer and kill the groups faster and the real Bots wont get anything.

    These weak Mobs dont need automation to get drops.

    The majority at the Matriarch on Atl are players controlling their toons.  Many are not from Atl.
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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,492
    Next you are going to say the Bots read chat and can go to a gate that someone calls out.  Someone is controlling them, but yall just can not comprehend how someone can sit at a computer all day.  It is not my responsibility to police other players.  I play to have fun, not worry about what others have.
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  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,352
    edited 12:36AM
    Pawain said:
    I never said shard bound was good.
    You said shard bound pet would kill the game.. wich is just a TINY portion..

    I won't bother reading the rest.. ice skater figure stuff.. if I do read and start arguing.. i'm gonna receive a whisper telling me be gentle with Paiwan, like last week when Popps called you out for a 180 and I was laughing.. his only problem is; he's too protective of the dev team.  :|


    You doing the same you did with Popps.. his problem do no matters, when he's asking for changes.. calling him out to "git gud" and learn the game mechanisms.. meanwhile the very next day u were doing the same; wondering why luck would matter for the treasure hunter cuz "our" hunter does not use luck set  :|

    Shard Bound pet would kill the game but who cares about all the rest of the heresy, right?
    Never heard you complain about shard bound.. heard u defend the dev choices for shard bound MULTIPLE TIME and now shard bound heretic pet would legit kill the game??... nothing less..  :D
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

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  • looploop Posts: 524
    Pawain said:
    Next you are going to say the Bots read chat and can go to a gate that someone calls out.  Someone is controlling them, but yall just can not comprehend how someone can sit at a computer all day.  It is not my responsibility to police other players.  I play to have fun, not worry about what others have.
    Pawain,

    I admire your post count, but you come across as condescending in response to others’ experience. I disagree with username’s attribution of malice toward the development team and his proposed “solution,” but his assessment of the bots is accurate.

    You might be fine with the horrific lag, the rampant use of programs which are forbidden, and the clear use of automated protocols (attended or otherwise), but a lot of players aren’t. Maybe it’s “only an Atlantic problem,” but that’s where 90 percent of players are — and still more transfer there on a regular basis to participate in events, engage in commerce, and socialize with others. To the extent that the game’s integrity is not protected or the team needs to make design concessions to “live with” these “Atlantic problems,” the issues impact all shards.

    We should want all players to have a positive experience in a game that means so much to so many and should encourage the raising of feedback. Before you assume bad faith or ignorance, consider that another player is sincere in their experience, even if they don’t communicate very constructively.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,492
    edited 3:16AM
    What was my first reply in this thread.  It remains correct..

    @loop I only do the Matriarch on Atlantic.  You have done it.  What is the routine?

    You see her for 1 second. You die. You find someone to res you. Repeat.
    Bots dont do that.  Those are players, whether you like it or not.

    The 5 to 10 second lag at the end is still there.  The one at 8pm was a lag fest.

    Bots dont do that.  Those are players, whether you like it or not.

    I don't give a flip about what happens in their dungeon, like I said this is an Atlantic issue.

    Go to LS and probably all other shards, you will see players using 2 or 3 accounts, you will see mostly solo players because, seriously these last two events have been raining drops. One player can kill as fast as a group in this event. There are no 24hr bots there.  LS is a community we are all getting drops and having fun.  We don't have a market to sell drops.

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  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,352
    edited 3:17AM
    Pawain said:
    We don't have a market to sell drops.
    I wonder why..  :D


    If you don't see a problem.. you are part of the problem.. you automation lover.


    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,492
    Just because I understand why a problem exists does not mean I support it.  Go to Atl Ill gate you to the matriarch and prove what you say. or STFU
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  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,352
    edited 3:25AM
    You ain't supporting the solution a single second.. remember during the heretic event in nov-dec 2024 you were cheering at the GM for sanctionning people reporting the choo choo trains while ignoring the problem?
    They (BS employees) were legit COVERING for them and you were all in for that.

    https://forums.uo.com/discussion/15510/did-you-know-saying-hi-trumps-the-tos


    You are part of the problem. You can fabricate all the story u want to fit your narrative while ignoring everything else.. No one take you seriously. Cookie # 2
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,492
    So you wont be there, Just post a sarcastic thing I said.  One day you will be intelligent enough to understand sarcasm, but to understand sarcasm you have to understand the truth.  I guess you will never achieve that.
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  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,352
    edited 3:35AM
    yes



    Edit: fun fact, the last time he was blaming Cookie for saying the vile thing he said in that trump post.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,492
    edited 3:42AM
    Sorry but that post is in your mind more than mine.  I say sarcastic stuff daily.  I cant recall the details of every sarcastic thing I say. 

    She is up gates made.

    Lets count the Bots.
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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,492
    edited 3:43AM
    Thats a small section its packed
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,352
    Are you Lord Scripto?  :*
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,492
    Look at all the Bots Lord Dufus.  :*  I just told my pet to follow and it did the rest, I stood on the outside and ressed players.  
    I saw about 100 UO players having fun.

    If you were there you would see that no Bots would do this encounter.


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  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,352
    edited 4:08AM
    KroDuK said:
    You are part of the problem. You can fabricate all the story u want to fit your narrative while ignoring everything else.. No one take you seriously. Cookie # 2
                                                                                  :| 


    Pawain said:
    I don't give a flip about what happens in their dungeon, like I said this is an Atlantic issue.
                                                                                   ;)
     
    KroDuK said:
    Pawain said:
    We don't have a market to sell drops.
    I wonder why..  :D
                                                                                    :/

    KroDuK said:
    You ain't supporting the solution a single second.. remember during the heretic event in nov-dec 2024 you were cheering at the GM for sanctionning people reporting the choo choo trains while ignoring the problem?
    They (BS employees) were legit COVERING for them and you were all in for that.

    https://forums.uo.com/discussion/15510/did-you-know-saying-hi-trumps-the-tos
                                                                                     :(

    KroDuK said:
    Are you Lord Scripto?  :*


    Note how fast is Paiwan trying to get this topic close as soon it was propose to shard bound the tamer stuff.. He just refuse to 180 on the automation "hard worker" solution.. these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.  :D
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,492
    edited 4:16AM
    Stop drunk posting please.

    Man I live in your head, you keep track of what I say more than I give a dang about about what I say.

    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,352
    edited 4:30AM
    Delusional.. I do that with almost everyone that I met more than once.

    Photographic memory.. It cause me problem with the names tho.


    Since u ask for it.. go see the other post.  >:)
     Leave this one alone.

    PS: you're typing nervously, I wonder why:
    Pawain said:
    more than I give a dang about about what I say.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

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  • usernameusername Posts: 1,197
    edited 5:15AM
    Pawain said:
    What was my first reply in this thread.  It remains correct..

    @ loop I only do the Matriarch on Atlantic.  You have done it.  What is the routine?

    You see her for 1 second. You die. You find someone to res you. Repeat.
    Bots dont do that.  Those are players, whether you like it or not.

    The 5 to 10 second lag at the end is still there.  The one at 8pm was a lag fest.

    Bots dont do that.  Those are players, whether you like it or not.

    I don't give a flip about what happens in their dungeon, like I said this is an Atlantic issue.

    Go to LS and probably all other shards, you will see players using 2 or 3 accounts, you will see mostly solo players because, seriously these last two events have been raining drops. One player can kill as fast as a group in this event. There are no 24hr bots there.  LS is a community we are all getting drops and having fun.  We don't have a market to sell drops.

    Interesting, the original topic and my first and (only reply) that mentions bots refers to the ToT yet you've somehow once again straw manned what I and others say. The matriarch was only brought up to prove how much of a hypocrite you are. I have never claimed it's being botted. It 100% is being multiboxed, however, or attended macroing, however you want to consider a stack of 10 archers moving around or 10 newbie gargoyles named ill illi lill llil llli iill llii but I guess since you didn't see it, it's not happening. Glad everyone else has eyes and can see it. Also, I really wouldn't doubt if someone told me the matriarch is being botted, after all, the Manifestation was incredibly AFK botted and this is the same recycled mechanic.
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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,492
    @username you brought up that I was on Atlantic and you knew what content I was doing there.

    Like I said the Bots are an Atlantic problem.  Also there are no Bots at the Matriarch.  Kinda blows the premise of everyone is a Bot out of the water.
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  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 1,352
    edited 7:50AM
    Pawain said:
    ^ The above only applies on Atlantic. ^

    FOLLOW ME I'LL PROVE YOU THERE IS NO BOT AT THE MATRIARCH ON ATL!!


    Meanwhile shard bound affect all the shards (specially hurt the non ATL one, for new or returning players.. while it's supposed to do the opposite).. the body disappear on all shards.. even dead shard like Legends is HEAVILY botted on both facets.. They put their garg thrower bot on you on Trammel when u call them out.. They even does the PvP bot train on Felucca when they start losing Xv1 battle on their reds supported by a cheat client.

    I repeat, zillions down:
    Pawain said:
    Like I said the Bots are an Atlantic problem.
                                                                                          :* 


    PS: once more.. if shard bound would be there to help other shard against ATL invader.. I could go shop on ATL and bring back the heresy with me.. cuz shard bound would be something like: cannot be transfer on ATL or any other popular shard.
    But u prefer to go brown tongue and ignore the logic, with non sense.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to automate the game.

    It’s comical to me you are so frightened of somehow bod scripters get some sort of advantage.

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