Treasures of the Feudal Lands Creature Fame List
ToT points: party penalty (!?) - Ultima Online Forums (uo.com)Kyronix said:The fame of the monster is only used to calculate how many points are available for distribution. Once that calculation is made, distribution is awarded based on position on the list....
With that in mind, here is a list of creature fame. This is compiled from UO Guide and Stratics. Not every creature in this Treasures event is listed, but most are. Fame may be different for Treasures creatures and fame may be very different for Treasures paragons. Use as you see fit.
Creature | Fame | Paragon (+40%) |
Bird | 150 | 210 |
Bone Knight | 3000 | 4200 |
Bone Magi | 3000 | 4200 |
Crane | ? | ? |
Deathwatch Beetle | 1400 | 1960 |
Deathwatch Beetle Hatchling | 700 | 980 |
Dread Spider | 5000 | 7000 |
Elite Ninja | 8500 | 11900 |
Evil Mage | 2500 | 3500 |
Evil Mage Lord | 10500 | 14700 |
Fan Dancer | 9000 | 12600 |
Frost Mite | ? | ? |
Gaman | 2000 | 2800 |
Giant Black Widow | 3500 | 4900 |
Giant Spider | 600 | 840 |
Gore Fiend | 1500 | 2100 |
Hiryu | 18000 | 25200 |
Hiryu (Lesser) | 10000 | 14000 |
Ice Elemental | 4000 | 5600 |
Jack Rabbit | 150 | 210 |
Kappa | 1700 | 2380 |
Lady of the Snow | 15000 | 21000 |
Lava Serpent | 4500 | 6300 |
Lich | 8000 | 11200 |
Orc | 1500 | 2100 |
Orc Captain | 2500 | 3500 |
Polar Bear | 1500 | 2100 |
Predator Hellcat | 2500 | 3500 |
Ronin | 8500 | 11900 |
Rune Beetle | 15000 | 21000 |
Shade | 4000 | 5600 |
Skeletal Dragon | 22500 | 31500 |
Skeletal Knight | 3000 | 4200 |
Skeletal Mage | 3000 | 4200 |
Skeleton | 450 | 630 |
Spectre | 4000 | 5600 |
Tsuki Wolf | 8500 | 11900 |
Walrus | 150 | 210 |
Wraith | 4000 | 5600 |
Zombie | 600 | 840 |
-Arroth
Comments
A little less ego-thinking, know-it-all and rumbling compared to others who aren't so "great" and the UO-life would be a whole corner easier
(Ein bisschen weniger Ego-Denken, Besserwisserei und Rumprollerei anderen gegenüber die halt nicht so "toll sind" und das UO-Leben wäre ne ganze Ecke einfacher)
UO Guide
Stratics
There are probably more missing from the table. Anyone else can add to the list if you'd like. However, I'll reiterate that I'm not sure:
1. How accurate this information is to begin with.
2. How relevant the information on these sites is to the "Treasures of..." events.
This is really the crux of the "Treasures..." events.
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Let's say this table can be used to compare creatures, even if the exact numbers are different during "Treasures..." events, and just make up some numbers.
A Wraith is 4000 fame, but only takes 1 hit to kill.
A Skeletal Dragon is 22500 fame, but takes 4 hits to kill.
If you could find and kill 4 Wraiths in the same 4 hit timeframe it takes to kill the Skeletal Dragon, you'd only be at (4 x 4000) = 16000 fame. Without other gameplay factors, the Skeletal Dragon would be a better return on investment.
However, there are other game play factors. Wraiths are plentiful and pose far less of a threat than Skeletal Dragons. As such, Wraiths or other low level / high fame spawn, are going to produce far more return for time invested for many templates. Additionally, whatever you're killing is going to have a chance to respawn as a paragon. Wraith Paragons are still easy kills for almost all templates, while Skeletal Dragon Paragons are beyond the capabilities of many templates and can be real time sinks even for those templates capable of slaying them.
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Just to compare paragons:
A Wraith Paragon is 5600 fame and still only takes 1 hit to kill.
A Skeletal Dragon Paragon is 31500 fame, but takes 25(?) hits to kill. (For those who can survive.)
If you killed 25 Wraith Paragons that would be (25 x 5600) = 140,000 Fame, or ~100k Fame more than a Skeletal Dragon Paragon. For a hit to hit match, is it easier for you to kill 25 Wraith Paragons or 1 Skeletal Dragon Paragon?
For a fame match, you wouldn't need to kill 25 Wraith Paragons.
6 Wraith Paragons (6 x 5600) = 33,600 fame. Slightly more than a Skeletal Dragon Paragon. Can you kill 6 Wraith Paragons in the time it takes you to kill 1 Skeletal Dragon Paragon?
The Wraiths don't even need to be paragons.
8 Wraiths (8 * 4000) = 32,000 fame. Slightly more than a Skeletal Dragon Paragon. Can you kill 8 normal Wraiths in the time it would take you to kill 1 Skeletal Dragon Paragon?
Now you can see why the Sampire bot swarms are ignoring the paragons.
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If you're solo, it's probably a lot easier to just ignore some of the high-level paragons and wipe out groups of the low-level creatures.
If you're in a party and can kill a Skeletal Dragon Paragon in, let's say, 20 sec., then ya, playing in Winter Spur with all the high-end mobs would be the way to go.
Which tees up the new Meta in UO: X-Healing Paladin bot swarms!
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As a community, we were already aware of all these interactions, but sometimes it's helpful to actually see the numbers.
For my particular template, the sweet spot is Evil Mage Lords (1 hit kills for ~10k Fame) and Ladies of the Snow (3-4 hit kills for ~ 15k Fame), but only because I can also easily handle the paragon versions of both those creatures, so my killing speed isn't slowed significantly when paragons spawn.