Items providing Crafting success bonuses....

Pawain

McDougle said:

Pawain said:

Making items by crafting is very balanced, none are really difficult.  Finding some ingredients may be, but the crafting part is not.  Class Dismissed!

In paddy cakes opinion case dismissed apparently he forgot this is an mmo and other players might have different opinions that are just as valid as his own 
...

So 75% making exceptional is too difficult?  Hop on the Easy bus!

I just prove what I say and not speculate and complain.

Lord_Frodo

Platemail Do 28 Ingots Yes Yes No 87.0 96.0% 51.0% Decorative Platemail Kabuto 25 Ingots Yes Yes No 90.0 90.0% 45.0% Platemail Battle Kabuto 25 Ingots Yes Yes No 90.0 90.0% 45.0% Standard Platemail Kabuto 25 Ingots Yes Yes No 90.0 90.0% 45.0% Sacrificial Dagger 10 a small piece of blackrock 2 Blue Diamond 2 Fire Ruby 12 Ingots No No No 95.0 80.0% 80.0% Polished Plating 20 Malleable Alloy 1 Polish No No No 100.0 % - Scoured Plating 20 Malleable Alloy 1 Scour No No No 100.0 % - Crushed Glass 1 Blue Diamond 5 Glass Sword No No No 110.0 50.0% 5.0% Powdered Iron 20 Ingots 1 White Pearl No No No 110.0 50.0% -

Smith 120
Tailor120
30/30

Lord_Frodo

Heavy Crossbow10 Boards or Logs NoYesNo80.0100.0%60.0%
Magical Shortbow15 Boards or LogsYesYesNo85.098.7%53.7%
Elven Fletching1 Fairy Dust20 FeatherNoNoNo90.092.5%47.5%
Repeating Crossbow10 Boards or LogsNoYesNo90.092.5%47.5%
Yumi10 Boards or LogsNoYesNo90.092.5%47.5%
Elven Composite Longbow20 Boards or LogsYesYesNo95.086.2%41.2%

Lord_Frodo

Plain Wooden Chest	30 Boards or Logs	No	Yes	No	90.0	100.0%	55.0%
Red Armoire	40 Boards or Logs	No	Yes	No	90.0	100.0%	55.0%
Short Cabinet	35 Boards or Logs	No	Yes	No	90.0	100.0%	55.0%
Tall Cabinet	35 Boards or Logs	No	Yes	No	90.0	100.0%	55.0%
Ter-Mur Style Dresser*	60 Boards or Logs	No	No	No	90.0	100.0%	-
Wooden Footlocker	30 Boards or Logs	No	Yes	No	90.0	100.0%	55.0%
Woodland Chest	6 Bark Fragment 20 Boards or Logs	Yes	Yes	No	90.0	100.0%	55.0%

Lord_Frodo

Turquoise Ring	20 Amethyst 5 Ingots 10 Turquoise	Yes	Yes	No	75.0	80.0%	35.0%
White Pearl Bracelet	5 Ingots 20 Tourmaline 10 White Pearl	Yes	Yes	No	75.0	80.0%	35.0%
Winnowing Basket	3 Shaft 2 Softened Reeds	Yes	No	No	75.0	80.0%	-
Fancy Wind Chimes	15 Ingots	No	Yes	No	80.0	70.0%	25.0%
Wind Chimes	15 Ingots	No	Yes	No	80.0	70.0%	25.0%
Dragon Lamp	1 Candelabra 8 Ingots 1 Workable Glass	No	No	No	85.0	60.0%	-
Stained Glass Lamp	1 Candelabra 8 Ingots 1 Workable Glass	No	No	No	85.0	60.0%	-
Tall Double Lamp	Candelabra Ingots Workable Glass	No	No	No	85.0	60.0%	-
Advanced Training Dummy	1 Broadsword 1 Close Helmet 1 Platemail Tunic 1 Training Dummy	No	No	No	90.0	50.0%	-

Pawain

Some of those are meant to be difficult such as the glass, and the rest, how many Platemail battle Kabutos do you make in 10 years? Seriously.

I'm getting nowhere near the easy bus.

Lord_Frodo

Once again @Pawain knows nothing, go back to taming.
There are a lot of items that can not be made 100% and with a Smith it requires an ASH

Lord_Frodo

Cloth Armor
Item Name	Resources Needed	Retains Color	Makers Mark	Requires Recipe	Skill Required	Success Chance	Except. Chance
Gargish Cloth Arms (type 1)	8 Cloth	Yes	Yes	No	87.1	95.8%	50.8%
Gargish Cloth Arms (type 2)	8 Cloth	Yes	Yes	No	87.1	95.8%	50.8%
Gargish Cloth Chest (type 1)	12 Cloth	Yes	Yes	No	94.0	82.0%	37.0%
Gargish Cloth Chest (type 2)	12 Cloth	Yes	Yes	No	94.0	82.0%	37.0%
Gargish Cloth kilt (type 1)	6 Cloth	Yes	Yes	No	82.9	100.0%	59.2%
Gargish Cloth kilt (type 2)	6 Cloth	Yes	Yes	No	82.9	100.0%	59.2%
Gargish Cloth Leggings (type 1)	10 Cloth	Yes	Yes	No	91.2	87.6%	42.6%
Gargish Cloth Leggings (type 2)	10 Cloth	Yes	Yes	No	91.2	87.6%	42.6%
Gargish Cloth Wing Armor	12 Cloth	Yes	Yes	No	65.0	100.0%	100.0%

Pawain

Lord_Frodo said:

Once again @ Pawain knows nothing, go back to taming.
There are a lot of items that can not be made 100% and with a Smith it requires an ASH

Another class:

Smithing has a secret weapon:



Study more you just fall into my traps. Actual logging in > theory.

So you are saying everything should be 100%?  Im out of that argument with a big NO..

Cloth and leather are too easy to get to be 100% and they can be salvaged.  Reagents are too easy to get for Alchemy to need better chances.

You should have chose Carpentry.  But we are back to my question earlier:

Ask yourself why you need to make that item. And if you do, why do you need 50 of them?

Lord_Frodo

Carp is up there and as always you do not read and they are even item required for BODs but we already know you know nothing about crafting.

McDougle

Much like unleashed simply resorting to insults and personal attacks from both sides..

Lord_Frodo

  

Pawain

You did find one of the ones that I said was an example of difficult.  But you had to copy someone else's info, I don't because I don't just collect BODs, I craft. 

Wind Chimes 25% exceptional success rate for such a insignificant item.. That's one you could complain about.

I show you in game craft menus but you show someone eles charts, Ya you the crafter...

Lord_Frodo

https://uo.stratics.com/content/skills/blacksmithing.php
https://uo.stratics.com/content/skills/bowcraft.php
https://uo.stratics.com/content/skills/carpentry.php
https://uo.stratics.com/content/skills/tailoring.php
https://uo.stratics.com/content/skills/tinkering.php

Petra_Fyde

I'm not going to get into the personalities dispute, but I think taking all craft skills to 120 would be a mistake. I already have 2 carpenters in order to be able to make everything, with the second skill required for some of them. How the heck would I fit the skills in if they all had to go to 120?
That's not to say that I don't think the crafting skills could do with some love, I do - I even sometimes wish there were talismans for imbuing when I'm trying to add the fifth property and just fizzled for the umpteenth time.
btw, I mostly use the failure talis when making the new Doom gauntlet items for someone. You can go through an awful lot of ingredients trying to make those without one.

Now if a few specific people could please stop arguing just for arguing's sake?

popps

Pawain said:

@ Lord_Frodo  Class is in session.  

Student Frodo said:
And to prove how little you know Tiger armor, Garg armor, Dragon Turtle Armor


I see you did not even look up % chance to make the items you said were difficult.
The ONLY item you listed that would not be 100/100 with a 30/30 Tali is the Dragon Turtle Armor.

The most difficult Garg Armor would be the chest 100/100  with a 30/30 Talisman.
I only have a 23/19 Smith Tali because there is no need to make those easier.
But the %s are below.

My Tailor Tali is 30/28

The Tiger stuff is 100/100

The most difficult items are the Dragon Turtle Armor.  But the %s are below.


With a good Talisman, anything requiring 90 skill will be 100/100

The only time you fail is with items that require more than 100 Skill.

Can someone actually prove that we need more items to increase the crafting % when All I see is 100/77% as the most difficult so far.  (there are 3 more difficult ones, but yall cant find them)  

I think @ McDougle @ popps and @ Lord_Frodo just want to ride on the easy bus.

How many crafters have the aid of a 30/30 Talisman ?

Most of the time, it is one of the two that is 30 with the other being rather low... or, both of them being in the 20ies, mid-range, possibly...

But "both" being 30/30 ? Quite a hard Talisman to come by...

Therefore, having OTHER items which provide a crafting success bonus can indeed "patch a hole" in whatever the Talisman is missing, be it regular crafting or exceptional crafting towards the 30% crafting success bonus...

popps

Pawain said:

Lord_Frodo said:

Once again @ Pawain knows nothing, go back to taming.
There are a lot of items that can not be made 100% and with a Smith it requires an ASH

Another class:

Smithing has a secret weapon:



Study more you just fall into my traps. Actual logging in > theory.

So you are saying everything should be 100%?  Im out of that argument with a big NO..

Cloth and leather are too easy to get to be 100% and they can be salvaged.  Reagents are too easy to get for Alchemy to need better chances.

You should have chose Carpentry.  But we are back to my question earlier:

Ask yourself why you need to make that item. And if you do, why do you need 50 of them?

Ask yourself why you need to make that item. And if you do, why do you need 50 of them?

Perhaps, just perhaps, because the gameplay of a Crafter, rather then being that of being a "Mule" for the self-sufficiency of one's own FIghting characters, might be intended to craft items and sell them to other  players ?

Just perhaps ?