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Enable/disable confusion running 2 bard mastery buffs

ForeverFunForeverFun Posts: 793
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If you run both Invigorate and Inspire (provocation masteries) at the same time, disabling one of the buffs causes both running buffs to be disabled.

However, to re-enable one of the buffs, you have to case it twice.  The server appears to get confused about the state of the running bard buffs.

Expected result: 1) disabling one buff only disables one buff, OR, 2) the server marks both as disabled without having to cast twice to re-enable a buff.

I haven't checked whether this applies to the other bard masteries buffs for peacemaking and discord.

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  • McDougleMcDougle Posts: 3,742
    This has randomly happened for years something trying to start one starts them both or ending one ends both as far as bard issues go low priority for me 
    Acknowledgment and accountability go a long way... 
  • ForeverFunForeverFun Posts: 793
    edited September 2022
    This reproduces 100% of the time :
    1. login, confirm no bard buffs running.
    2. start invigorate bard buff
    3. start inspire bard buff
    4. stop inspire bard buff
    5. note bard buffs both stop (unexpected)
    6. start invigorate bard buff
    7. note bard buff doesn't start (unexpected)
    8. start invigorate bard buff
    9. note bard buff starts


  • YoshiYoshi Posts: 3,322
    “(I thought this had already been reported but couldn’t locate original report)”
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  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Posts: 2,247
    • A bard may only have one ability in effect at a time.
  • McDougleMcDougle Posts: 3,742
    Lord_Frodo said:
    • A bard may only have one ability in effect at a time.
     if you are running provo you can have both running 
    Acknowledgment and accountability go a long way... 
  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Posts: 2,247
    edited September 2022
    McDougle said:
    • A bard may only have one ability in effect at a time.
     if you are running provo you can have both running 
    Is that a bug or an exploit
    What I posted was from
    https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/skills/bardic-skills/bard-masteries/
    and nowhere does it say that both can be run.
    @Mariah @Rorschach @Mesanna @Kyronix @Bleak @Misk
    could you confirm that it is ok to run both at the same time
  • McDougleMcDougle Posts: 3,742
    Lord_Frodo said:
    McDougle said:
    • A bard may only have one ability in effect at a time.
     if you are running provo you can have both running 
    Is that a bug or an exploit
    What I posted was from
    https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/skills/bardic-skills/bard-masteries/
    and nowhere does it say that both can be run.
    @ Mariah @ Rorschach @ Mesanna @ Kyronix @ Bleak @ Misk
    could you confirm that it is ok to run both at the same time
    You obviously have never played a bard  why are you replying other than your dislike of me? 
    Acknowledgment and accountability go a long way... 
  • YoshiYoshi Posts: 3,322
    "yeah i never read that, either Frodo is right and it's an exploit, or wiki is just wrong"
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  • McDougleMcDougle Posts: 3,742
    edited September 2022
    Yoshi said:
    "yeah i never read that, either Frodo is right and it's an exploit, or wiki is just wrong"
    You kids are slow so i will clarify. There are three bard masteries disco,provo and peace each has 2 spells. We all on same page ??? Ok now you can only run one mastery but you can run both spells at same time IE insipre and invigorate. Ok everyone still with me????? Now the BUG is as follows sometimes turning one on or off turns the other off or on at the same times this is not working as intended are we clear now ?
    Acknowledgment and accountability go a long way... 
  • ForeverFunForeverFun Posts: 793
    edited September 2022
    McDougle said:
    • A bard may only have one ability in effect at a time.
     if you are running provo you can have both running 
    Is that a bug or an exploit
    What I posted was from
    https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/skills/bardic-skills/bard-masteries/
    and nowhere does it say that both can be run.
    @ Mariah @ Rorschach @ Mesanna @ Kyronix @ Bleak @ Misk
    could you confirm that it is ok to run both at the same time
    It seems there are gaps in understanding how "skill masteries" work.

    AFAIK, as long as you have sufficient mana, each selected skill mastery "group" allows you to have any number of the selections running at the same time.  e.g. combat training and whispering from the taming mastery (combined with the passive stable slot increase)..

    The two examples I covered in this bug report are both from the provocation mastery.

    It may be helpful to move away from a constant "exploit" mindset.
  • ChrilleChrille Posts: 209
    edited September 2022
    McDougle said:
    • A bard may only have one ability in effect at a time.
     if you are running provo you can have both running 
    Is that a bug or an exploit
    What I posted was from
    https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/skills/bardic-skills/bard-masteries/
    and nowhere does it say that both can be run.
    @ Mariah @ Rorschach @ Mesanna @ Kyronix @ Bleak @ Misk
    could you confirm that it is ok to run both at the same time
    This is from the link you added
    "Bards with either provocation or peacemaking mastery can have both their mastery spell songs active at the same time."
  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,033
    ForeverFun said:
    This reproduces 100% of the time :
    1. login, confirm no bard buffs running.
    2. start invigorate bard buff
    3. start inspire bard buff
    4. stop inspire bard buff
    5. note bard buffs both stop (unexpected)
    6. start invigorate bard buff
    7. note bard buff doesn't start (unexpected)
    8. start invigorate bard buff
    9. note bard buff starts


    Yup I think this is new. I cant run both buff in a party because I run out of mana so I turn off Invigorate to regen Mana.  In the past I have turned off invigorate and inspire stays on.

    When I do them in the above order, I can not turn off Inspire without both turning off.

    But if I turn on Inspire first and then Invigorate, I can turn off Invigorate and Inspire stays on.

    But I can repeat your order over and over with the same results as you posted, which are not correct.

    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • MariahMariah Posts: 2,969Moderator
    Lord_Frodo said:
    • A bard may only have one ability in effect at a time.

    There is a misunderstanding here. You may only have one ability in effect, but you can have both spells OF that ability running. The 3 bard abilities being Provocation, Peacemaking or Discord.

  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Posts: 2,247
    Chrille said:
    McDougle said:
    • A bard may only have one ability in effect at a time.
     if you are running provo you can have both running 
    Is that a bug or an exploit
    What I posted was from
    https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/skills/bardic-skills/bard-masteries/
    and nowhere does it say that both can be run.
    @ Mariah @ Rorschach @ Mesanna @ Kyronix @ Bleak @ Misk
    could you confirm that it is ok to run both at the same time
    This is from the link you added
    "Bards with either provocation or peacemaking mastery can have both their mastery spell songs active at the same time."
    Mariah said:
    Lord_Frodo said:
    • A bard may only have one ability in effect at a time.

    There is a misunderstanding here. You may only have one ability in effect, but you can have both spells OF that ability running. The 3 bard abilities being Provocation, Peacemaking or Discord.

    TY both
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