Mesanna, Set your alarm for 0300 YOUR TIME and GET UP
I refuse to accept the excuse from you and the GM's that you cannot find the scripters because they have logged when you look for them
PLEASE GET OUT OF BED, pay an hours overtime to the GM's and go check out the scripters.
Legends and Europa are rife with them and I bet others shards are too, when you are all tucked up snoring. They know it, we know and YOU must know it
This is NOT what I expect as a paying customer of 3 accts should have to put with, and certainly not seeing a fix after all this time
BAN EJ accounts from these events, and you can permanently ban anyone stupid enough to use their main accts
I also think all these illegally gained items will soon be littering RMT sites and taking MORE money from the game
PLEASE JUST DO SOMETHING, AND LET US KNOW YOUR ARE DOING SOMETHING
Time to start looking after paying customers
PLEASE GET OUT OF BED, pay an hours overtime to the GM's and go check out the scripters.
Legends and Europa are rife with them and I bet others shards are too, when you are all tucked up snoring. They know it, we know and YOU must know it
This is NOT what I expect as a paying customer of 3 accts should have to put with, and certainly not seeing a fix after all this time
BAN EJ accounts from these events, and you can permanently ban anyone stupid enough to use their main accts
I also think all these illegally gained items will soon be littering RMT sites and taking MORE money from the game
PLEASE JUST DO SOMETHING, AND LET US KNOW YOUR ARE DOING SOMETHING
Time to start looking after paying customers
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Thanks for staying around despite all these issues.
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Never be afraid to challenge the status quo
IMO scripters only exist because there is demand for their product/service. That demand only comes from people who plays this game.
We need to quit trying to make content “scripter proof”, which always punishes the honest player more and instead design the content so the average player on any shard can acquire the items they want without tremendous grind.
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And let us question then ourselves...
Why is there "demand" from the players who play the game ?
Perhaps, "just perhaps", because the Design of the game forces players to have to spend countless of their time in repetitive, grinding gameplay in order to get items in an increasingly itemized game?
Let's take as an example the latest Fey Event in Destard, shall we ?
On average, gathering eggs, but I seem to understand also from fighting in Destard, my impression is that the average points that a player can gather per hour of time spent grinding in the game (whether collecting eggs or fighting over and over in Destard, at least to my impression, it is grinding gameplay...), is, as I said, on average, 10 points per hour....
Therefore, the average player collecting the average 10 points per hour would need 10 hours of his/her lifetime to get a, say, 100 points Reward.
Since it is repetitive grinding gameplay, at least to my opinion, doing the same thing over and over, some players might think it more effective to spend those 10 hours working, rather then spending it in repetitive grinding gameplay, which, for example, in the US, considering that the minimum hourly wage indicated by the Federal Government is 7.25 USD, would net 72.50 USD.
And, i would guess, that quite a few Ultima Online players might earn more then the Federal indicated minimum wage so, those 10 hours of their time necessary to be spent to get that 100 points item, could earn them more then 72.50 USD...
Now, I see points for sale at about 2 millions UO gps so, the 100 points, if purchased, would cost 200 millions UO gps.
Looking at some RMT sites, my impression is, that 100 millions UO gps cost, on average, about 20 USD so, a player who might want to purchase 200 millions UO gps would need to spend about 40 USD.
That is, a player actually working those 10 hours necessary to gather through, what I consider repetitive grinding, the 100 points necessary to get a 100 points Fey Event Reward, could be "better off" working and earning money, as compared to spending those 10 hours in the game, doing repetitive, grinding gameplay....
What I am trying to say is that, to my opinion, it is the Design of how some things in UO work.... for example, too much time to get a given Reward and, worse, with, what I personally see as repetitive grinding gameplay if we look at these "Treasures of" Events.
So, as I said at the beginning of my post, let's look in depth at "why" there might be demand from some players that could promote then scripting gameplay and, if we conclude that perhaps, "just perhaps", it is how these Events and the getting of the related Rewards is that are Designed which might actually promote scripting in Ultima Online, we should perhaps, ask for the Design of the game to be changed if we do not want players to have reasons to then buy gold or items from scripters...
At least, that is how I see it.
At the most, their cost is the power to run their computer and, possibly, the cost of the internet connection.
The most expensive commodity that there is, to my opinion, is one's own time.
But AFK scripters, I understand, spend hardly any of their time, it is their script that runs without them having to spend much of their actual time.
The real problem is, to my opinion, the enormous time that is necessary in the game to get some wanted items.
As long as that time will be, by Design, so long, of course that AFK scripters will always have a business....
Those players wanting to see scripting go, should ask for a change in the game's Design which would make items take MUCH LESS TIME to be gotten.
Only this, to my opinion, would make scripting pointless.
That is at least how I see it.
The email reply from Mesanna herself to me today states the following:
"I have notified the GM's of the ongoing issue. They are aware but if the person response they are not scripting or unattended macroing."
That is the level of enforcement we have at the top table. So, if they reply they are NOT scripting. Give me strength
STRAIGHT FROM MESANNA HERSELF
so to everyone playing you can now run ALL illegal 3rd party programs on EJ accts and as long as you are watching all your illegally scripting computers its all ok according to Mesanna herself. As long as you are there to reply to the dumb red text challenge.
Time for a Netflix binge while the games in auto
ITS LEGAL and Mesanna has NO idea
So you can run an illegal script in 2D client, and then talk to the GM if they bother to get up and they sod off and leave you to it. LOL the most pathetic DEV team in UO history
They have no idea about the illegal programs, how to identify them, because they have to actually be watching to see, and they do NOT enforce it
So all the items these players get, that ultimately end up on RMT site for $$$$$$ are fine with Mesanna
Here is your answer: Former GM River recently posted on reddit.
This should blow up the forums
Also, when you seen all the players handing in 10 eggs every few seconds you know they are running the script, no way a human can click that quick, is use th eEC with Pinco and even with the grid backpack I cannot click 10 eggs as fast and as consistently as the many Europa and Legends cheats I see. also regular journeys with I am guessing g10 eggs at a time to not overload or lose many when killed in Fel
Just spend some time at the traders outside Destard. Watch as the scripters recall in, slowing walk to traders, almost instantly get the completed quest clime, sell to trader, recall away, PERFECTLY every time. On all shards I would bet
Of course they are not Scripting Mesanna. hills the script is running they can also verbally abuse you by the way
You should be ashamed you let this get to this
Also, you should be ashamed that no matter what you and your team try, the scripters are cleverer than you, can beat you EVERY time, and the only people who suffer are the few legal paying customers you have left
Be great on your CV when this game is dead and YOU were at the reigns. 25 year MMO killed by YOU, the lead producer
So how much of a cut do YOU get lead developer? pray tell..........
just as long as people read it before it falls away, at least we all know
Don’t really see all the cheating every one refers to on my shard. Sure it happens here. But know the names of a lot of players now and know they are real. Maybe with shard bound the market here just does not support scripters. That’s a good thing. Think game here is what it is suppose to be. EJ accounts do attract returning and new players. Don’t see anyway around that when no other effort is being made. Maybe put another limitation on them that does not allow their drops to be sold since they can’t have vendors.
I collect eggs and I play in the dungeon each night. Spend more time collecting eggs because I do better that way time wise. Really like having the two options available to me. Do see irregularities that I am pretty sure are caused by players but they do not seem to present major problems. Actually, enjoy playing UO although the programs instability is starting to concern me. Have now forgotten what this thread is about so will stop now.
you seem the picture where he said ALL EM's use EUO?
These are not robots, these are players using computers for what computers were made for.
They are probably sitting at a bank of monitors like this and watching movies and doing their other job while monitoring UO.
Also a realist.