IDOC Change
Remove the 5-10-15 and put back the 6h50-7h10 please.
This does not stop the cheaters but worse, they are automated to loot when it falls.
Since we are humans ... (We sleep, work, activities out of the game etc ...) it is impossible to do IDOC again.
So I will find it more equal to let the IDOCs fall as before and remove the new system.
Thank you.
- Would you22 votes
- revert to drop 7H after IDOC state.68.18%
- 5-10-15 is fine31.82%
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Idocing is fueled by nothing more than greed, bottom feeding off those that have left due to boredom, financial trouble and even death.
I've done it. We've all done it. We rarely think about the person behind the home and only in extreme cases does anyone try to save anything for their return.
I think all items should be put into a moving crate system only accessed by placing another house or deleted on the spot.
Recirculating items makes content worthless. I've idoced enough regs to last 20 more years of this game and when I go, they'll just go to someone else.
if you plan to "address" this situation "soon" at least for now put the way it was static at 7 hours after and PLS remove this non sense 15 hours BS, serious , we have life outside UO and the 15 hours dont benefit anyone at all, so while you still thinking on "brain storming" ideas, at least DO something for now and either revert the situation until fixed.
Just not everyone and god forbid in public or even their own "forums".
One vote per account (lol, don't do it like elections this time!).
Ideas could be collected here to vote on, but if ingame, and announced by the town criers for a few days, everyone could have a say, and not just the few here on the boards.
Since this topic is so Hot, why not pause idocs or stop them for now while thwy are working on it.
With that been said, 2 things that I want to address, OSI houses and Objects blocking placements that I wll make another post for that.
The OSI houses are NOT working as they should, the whole purpose on houses turning OSI, is to give the Vendor Renters, enough time (another week cycle) to come to the house and clear their vendor contents and gold out of the house sign.
so the house that will stage and have vendors NOT owned by the house owner, WILL go OSI after the full stage process (SL, SW, FW, GW and IDOC) than will go Owned by OSI and it SHOULD stay up for another full stages (SL, SW, FW, GW and IDOC) and than drop, but over 90% of them fall at either SW or FW and only those "camping" 24/7 AFK, will benefit from that.
The Sonoma Keep was a perfect example, the Keep had a vendor inside and went OSI, than the house went SL, SW, FW and than pooof.
as stated before the keep had a lot of rares on it and collapsed at 4:00am at FW stage and all items went pooof instant by a lot of Hidden toons that were camping there, maybe even AFK, lets give the benefit of doubt on that.
I know the Devs told us that this is something they will look into 2020 (soon) but we all know that we cant count on their word on the coming soon, look at the coming soon acc mgmt from 6 years ago and never came. so why not Cancel the idocs for now? and We will wait til they "soon" perma fix the problem? or like suggested on this topic, revert to the way that was before, PLS STOP this NONE SENSE 5-10-15 hours IDOCS.
1. This only applied to rented vendors, not house owned vendors, of course we cannot tell the difference.
2. An OSI house can be dropped by Mesanna at any time once the appeal decision etc or final ban decision has been made. This is why some houses do not go the full cycle.
My BIG problem with this, and I made this clear on a now closed thread is how something VERY suspicious happens with this.
I was watching 2 diff OSI idocs in Atl. First was a medium size house, crammed between several other houses so nothing special to go after placement wise. But it DID have over 15 auction safes, so well worth going for. Anyway, whilst stopping by to see what's up, one day "somewhat worn to fairly worn" there were 2 groups of 5 pack animals and hidden players. We know who it is so I won't say through fear of getting this closed. I went back several hours later, and you know it , GONE and looted. Pissed off yes, but I put it down to OSI weirdness.
This happened again in the last 2 weeks. First few days of cycle, nothing. Then when the houses was fairly worn, Loads of pack animals bunched up ready to auto follow. The script looter we all know hidden again. Several hours later. Same thing looted dry.
He was not there the day before on both occasions but he knew to be there within a few hours of "fall"
NO WAY. So there IS a link between the dev team and this idoc person.
You saw both. Maybe the difference is he stayed and watched.
Your case would be immediately dismissed.
Please make the Grizzled Mare a 5 slot mount, it's incredibly rare and deserves it. Some of us have been waiting a long time for this simple addition.
This was not coincidental at all. This is what I am getting at.
And bearing in mind the player investigation done on the idci script cheating and the Dev's involved you tube videos documenting many aspects of idoc cheating and idoc fall time changes to suit a certain player or team. This is as far as I am concerned another piece of idoc foul play.
Maybe you can enlighten me with you knowledge of this topic, after 1500+ idocs in 13 years give or take I like to think I know something is definitely up here
Here is a rough account of what I witnessed. Server up, I log in, go to idoc note the time. Rabbit and llama hidden there, we know who that is...........few hours later looking to get an idea of state change, same hidden animals, check in again, pack animals everywhere, same idoc cheater names hidden, we know who this is. check back a little while later, house gone, just crap like tables etc left.
NO WAY IN HELL ITS BY CHANCE.
Like I say, twice recently I have seen a link to behaviour. So it could have happened many times before. And another player win a now locked thread (surprise, surprise) has witness the same thing.
You just would NOT wait around for days unless you are new to idocs, and it was literally a few hours before they fell, so not even hopefully camping all day. He KNEW they were going, and what's worse for me Mesanna would have seen the pack animals waiting when she went to drop them. All in houses favours. She could have watched the scripts working while she was there couldn't she.
Simply put, there is NO appetite to deal with this cheater. More changes coming will only impact those of us that don't cheat. Guarantee the changes coming will be for the benefit on the Idoc cheater.
I complain about the idoc cheat yes. There is enough evidence, certainly with the you tube video for the Devs to take action. By there has been no appetite to deal with it in the year I have been back.
I don't however complain if Spring beats me to house placement or there players as its part of the game, we all have a chance.
What I DO complain about it auto loot scripting and the lack of action. We are all pissed off with it
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Please make the Grizzled Mare a 5 slot mount, it's incredibly rare and deserves it. Some of us have been waiting a long time for this simple addition.
No warning, no house decay signs,It would be a frenzied 2/3 hr window of opportunity. Zooming around the lands looking for houses that have fallen would actually be a great idea. Seeing as they always fall or turn within a certain time frame (billing time outs I guess). I have never thought of this but I really like it, no cheating, no scripts just rushing around hoping to come across a bounty!
As long as it decays over a longer time frame to allow finders
I am all for that idea
Also, I personally do feel sad a lot of the time when houses do go, as it usually means people are bored or fed up and moved on (or something ever more tragic), The Dev's or Broadsword, or EA or whoever it is does not do their utmost to keep the game alive then it is a shame.
The last time I quit, and I thought it was for good was when the brought out shard shields, won't go into it as its a very toxic subject, But when I did come back I only had what I had in the bank, and I really enjoyed going out there again and reacquainting myself with the game, and I take comfort from that and hope many others will return and try again
However what I have seen several times over the last month is players falling victim to the 90 day game and losing. I have returned shard shields and token to players that have made a mistake and I would urge people for the sake of their pixel property and the property of the game to just pay up and dont gamble!!!
Which goes back to the time old argument. Stop 3rd party scripts invading the game through the back door.
or just like many others suggested, Stop them for Good.
Farewell.