Did you know: Saying 'Hi' trumps the TOS

The following actions are against the Terms of Service. If caught doing any of these could result in action against your account. 24 hour bans or even account termination.


* Classic Client macro with paper jammed in keyboard while away from keyboard allowing actions 24/7

* UOAssist macro used with another program to "infinit Loop" 24/7

* Classic Client used with a full scripting app to fully automate anything 24/7

* Third party client with full scripting to fully automate anything 24/7

* Third party client with full scripting to fully automate multiple accounts at once 24/7


But did you know...

Simply saying 'Hi' to a GM if questioned somehow makes everything ok.

Don't take my word for it. Go ask the bots running 24/7 in the Atlantic Solen hive tunnels. They have been paged on for days but must keep saying 'Hi!' They wont say Hi to you though, they only respond to their GM buddies.

That's it for today kids. Go hit play and enjoy UO!
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  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,327
    How many years have I been telling you these players are attended?

    They don't say Hi, the GM asks a specific question.  Can range from how are you today to some other ice breaker.  Maybe a simple math question.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • usernameusername Posts: 964
    The following actions are against the Terms of Service. If caught doing any of these could result in action against your account. 24 hour bans or even account termination.
    Friend in Discord paged on a dozen of the bots last night on Atl. Got a infraction for 'help queue abuse'  :D They truly are invincible. 
    This discussion has been closed.

    I will be slow to reply because I cannot log in/stay logged in to the forums.
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  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,327
    username said:
    The following actions are against the Terms of Service. If caught doing any of these could result in action against your account. 24 hour bans or even account termination.
    Friend in Discord paged on a dozen of the bots last night on Atl. Got a infraction for 'help queue abuse'  :D They truly are invincible. 
    Yup, harassing attended players will do that.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • Pawain, I know you have been saying that for years. There are honest players that have awesome macros using legal clients that are awesome at playing UO. I've been playing long enough to know that. I like to think I am one of them. I'm not talking about them. They are in most cases no where as efficient as the BOTS I'm posting about. These BOTS are so efficient they exceed human performance in every metric you can throw at it and no human can compete with.

    For example, right now as I type this there are single BOTS running the solen hives that are so efficient that I am in awe of them. Who ever programmed the script, client, program, etc.. has done a remarkable job. It basically turns your character into a super BOT. To watch a single double axe wielding solo the entire hive *even at max paragon levels* abilterate the entire hive, while I'm trying to holylight just to hit something is madding. Now throw in four of these bots, and you (I) have no chance at getting any drops.

    These people running super bots SHOULD be banned for just running whatever illegal script, client, program period. At this point the TOS has already been broken, time to move to actions against the accounts. It should not progress to asking how someone is doing, or if they can respond. If they respond after their account has been caught super botting as described above they should be instant banned as it is "willful noncompliance against the TOS".

    If a GM shows up people keep making the leap to "just attended macroing" at this point. Its not the same thing, nor should it be treated the same. I think its time the Dev team re-evaluates how it deals with a page about BOTS to begin with. 24/7 Bots are not the same as someones UO Assists 50 line mining macro. They need to be dealt with differently, and not given the chance to exploit the situation by saying "Hi!" to a GM and continuing to plague the game.
  • usernameusername Posts: 964
    @Bark_At_The_Moon Some users on these forums post in incredibly bad faith and have no motive other than to troll. Since there is no ignore function we sometimes have to do our best to simply ignore these users.
    This discussion has been closed.

    I will be slow to reply because I cannot log in/stay logged in to the forums.
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  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,327
    Yup, you would not want to read true statements.  And posters who disagree with you.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • Arroth_ThaielArroth_Thaiel Posts: 1,075
    edited December 2024
    The Hunter and its launcher are more complex than you are giving credit for.

    A quick look through the appropriate web sites and discords and you will find that the client has integrated messaging apps, so that while the bot is running, you can monitor the game and communicate with GM's via your phone, from the corner coffee shop or wherever.

    You can be provided with the bot, phone integration to respond to GM's, and appropriate monetary transfer apps, via encrypted links on Viber and / or Telegram. My understanding from reading a bit about this is that you are using one-off channels for the distribution of the bot. There is a key / seed for you to be able to enter the channel, presumably so EA or other ICI departments can't just join up.

    Honestly, the amount of work the builders of these clients have done, and the encryption and secretiveness they are using to distribute the software, is quite eye opening.

    It also means that otherwise legitimate players can "rent - out" their accounts when not using them. Making it more difficult for Broadsword to ban an otherwise paying account.

    It is really an operation the Broadsword team is up against. One that appears to have snowballed over the last year or two.
    -Arroth
  • looploop Posts: 439
    Pawain said:
    How many years have I been telling you these players are attended?

    They don't say Hi, the GM asks a specific question.  Can range from how are you today to some other ice breaker.  Maybe a simple math question.
    Pawain, the OP is arguing that players who are automating the game with unauthorized third-party programs should be actioned, regardless of whether or not they respond to a GM question.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,327
    edited December 2024
    loop said:
    Pawain said:
    How many years have I been telling you these players are attended?

    They don't say Hi, the GM asks a specific question.  Can range from how are you today to some other ice breaker.  Maybe a simple math question.
    Pawain, the OP is arguing that players who are automating the game with unauthorized third-party programs should be actioned, regardless of whether or not they respond to a GM question.
    OP should not use click bait titles that are untrue then.

     I agree that someone should not be able to log into the servers without an approved client.  

    I do not understand why the game allows a non UO client log into UO.  Sounds unsecure to me.

    As long as they allow it, then the GMs can only do what they are told,  leave attended paying accounts alone.

    These people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate a "dead" game.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,749
    End of the day, yes, there is a level some people go to, that is above, and beyond, and obvious.

    But who are these players, where do you draw the line, maybe it is not as obvious as everyone thinks.

    I really do see, the cleanest of the clean players get blamed ingame.
    Players see this stuff everywhere, which undermines the case.

    I also see "low level" stuff, players just playing the game their way.

    I also see stuff that is not obvious, what you have to remember, the best people at this, really are hiding - if you are seeing them - they almost are not the ones. 
  • Attended macroing does NOT mean you can go off to work and wait for your 3rd party software to play UO for you and tell you when to respond to a GM. Reponding "Hi!" or some other "ice breaker" is not attended macroing in any sense of the word via a cell phone. Its exploiting the GM paging system to continue to exploit the game via BOT software. 

    Broadsword needs to know about this to react. The paging system is being exploited to aid the exploiters for crying out loud!!!

    24/7 BOTS are a problem. Not your UOAssist tailoring macro, or tree stump hacks.

    Pawain, why you insist on jumping in these threads when its been made clear you are not the target here is beyond me. You use the classic client and have macros, big deal. You are not going 24/7 at inhuman rates of efficiency or duration while playing UO. You have nothing to worry about. 

    Post if you must, I'm not going to be the one that tells another poster what they should or shouldnt post about. I stand by my original Title and do NOT feel it is click bait.
  • ScrewballScrewball Posts: 6
    I would call this click bait. Your title is misleading and just simply untrue. You have made HUGE allegations. And what is your evidence? That a player will not talk to you. Maybe they don't speak the same language as you. Maybe they don't want to talk. Who knows? There are many reasons someone might not respond to some random player. Especially in a combat area. I feel you jumped from A to Z because it fit your agenda for click bait. Think more positively
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 772
    edited January 4
    Screwball said:
    I would call this click bait. Your title is misleading and just simply untrue. You have made HUGE allegations. And what is your evidence? That a player will not talk to you. Maybe they don't speak the same language as you. Maybe they don't want to talk. Who knows? There are many reasons someone might not respond to some random player. Especially in a combat area. I feel you jumped from A to Z because it fit your agenda for click bait. Think more positively
    Calling him out for speaking the truth for anyone that has to deal with them bots or frame skippers full of automated actions, and refuse to cope with them, asking for evidence followed by a tons of maybe and might..

    Just the fact you exist 6 posts @Screwball to defend your way of life is a proof in itself.

    You're not helping your cause.. you screwball  :D
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 528
    I don't even consider legal multi-clienting legitimate. No other game tolerates it, even random pirate WoW servers operating out of Eastern European basements don't let you do that shit the way UO does. It's an embarrassing concession the UO team makes to give cheaters a fig leaf because they need the money.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 772
    edited January 4
    @Lord_Nythrax Totally agreed with that.. first time I realised that was like one of the two time i came back on uo between ~2015-2019.. both time without SA the game was mostly unplayable at this point, after 2-3months I was out.. once I launch my client that was already open by mistake.. Always had 2 accounts but u couldn't launch both on same PC, legitimatly.

    As soon I realised that.. i would bring the alt account to get extra PS type of stuff.. nothing to hide anymore at this point... when before I was hidding in my house to transfer stuff like blue beetle or rez my pets on 2 PCs.


    the ONLY other game i've seen that was DOFUS.. and my only complaint on DOFUS was.. this is so dumb.. they should make one client deal multiple account.. wich they did recently after 20 years.

    It's a turn base MMOrpg sub to play.. I tried for the first time in ~2018.. most dungeon are 4 men players.. with a friend we would do them 2 accounts each.. some players would do 8 accounts by themselves for PvP (8v8 PvP).. but u would need to alt tab like crazy.. today u can sub and play X accounts, without alt tabbing, on a single client... on a turn base it make a lot of sense.


    The auto follow thingy on UO is the nasty stuff you should looked at.. a third party bot promotion type of stuff.. this is an invitation! Specially during those pro bots events. a bot users can use a third party to run tons of client on the same PC.. for BS to make it so.. it's a tad harder to say cheater or not (as I proved with Paiwan help, assisted by that frame skipper ^^).. is.. let's bring the red carpet!  :s 

    I guess the bracelet of binding is too expensive or hard to grind for legit vet users with 2 accounts or more..
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,327
    edited January 4
    @kroduk said a bot users can use a third party to run tons of client on the same PC.. for BS to make it so.. it's a tad harder to say cheater or not (as I proved with Paiwan help ^^)

    What?  You can run multiple clients on all the UO clients?  Where do you get so stupid?
    I ran 2 accounts in Diablo 3 together.  

    I invited you to come watch me play instead of making up bullshyt about me. You never did.

    This event is too easy to run more than one toon.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 772
    edited January 4


    I was saying to nythrax.. u don't look at the good stuff.. even if tomorow BS say no more multiple client on the same PC.. u still can own multiple laptop or cheater could still run third party to run multiple client on the same PC..




    Here I was saying this is the nasty part.. BS making it harder for legit user to spot cheaters or non cheaters.. like I prove with you with my multi-bots video/ fan dancer dojo or even with that 1vs4 PvP video me against a train conductors with... depending on that cheater it was NOT his own account (cuz i recorded all of these train grinding on their own, like good lil bots i would use to help me fight their own red) but guildmates on the auto follow AFK helping him to PvP while getting a few free artifacts while sleeping (unattended BS train) or one dude with a bots train (his own account with or without automation)

    See here.. I presented you 3 options.. one is legit one dude with his own multiple accounts doing the train with 0 automation.. now prove me this is not HIS account.. wich I did on this very forum.. that guy (the same person that admitted being one of the red archers i fought with/ their guildmate) ADMITTED it was NOT his own account.. but unattended guildmate..

    Nythrax complain about multiple LEGIT client.. I'm saying u should complaint about the LEGIT unattended playing.


    PS: and you are the one calling me stupid?  :D
    Edit: put your alts on the follow train using the CC.. those are free necro boss artifacts and extra luck.. even if you're too strong for them mobs, you stupid.


    @paiwan i've just seen your diablo edit.. personally I hated blizzard north.. couldn't play Starcraft, D1 nor the first few years of D2 with the lil bro.. even with 2 PC we had IP block cuz same internet.
    I had priority on SC him on Diablo.. If he wanna play SC when i play.. he had to pick another region than US-East to play online on the same internet.. If u wonder why there was a Lan option on BNET...

    Edit2: and BTW diablo 3 ain't no MMO u stupid  :D
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,327
    No, its not.  What you say is false.  It takes 1 second to tell if someone is following or multi boxing.

    When you use a multibox program, all commands go to all the clients at the same time. They cast the same macros and move at the same time.

    When you follow someone running, your toon falls behind them and if they run long enough, the follower will be out of range.  Following uses the same AI as a pet following you.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 772
    Pawain said:
    No, its not.  What you say is false.  It takes 1 second to tell if someone is following or multi boxing.

    When you use a multibox program, all commands go to all the clients at the same time.
    I stopped here.. u clearly can't tell why i'm using the term Multi-bot and not Multi-box.. have a good one!
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 772
    edited January 4
    Here did some digging, remember that: 



    They all attack and loot clearly 9 bots on the chou chou train.. I was saying u were saying it's legit cuz it's not MUTLIBOX when it's MULTI-BOTS.. a tad harder for some to tell it ain't legit.. it could totally be 10 friends playing together, right?.. or one dude using 10 accounts; are they all doing infite AI?
    He's alt tabbing on everyone of them after each kills to loot.. cuz u know u cannot auto loot on CC legit nor follow legit on EC.. They were doing that 24/7 for 8 straight days.. u can find them in Ararat a lot.

    so yeah, a tad harder for... I'll stay polite even if ^^
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,749
    edited January 4
    I don't even consider legal multi-clienting legitimate. No other game tolerates it, even random pirate WoW servers operating out of Eastern European basements don't let you do that shit the way UO does. It's an embarrassing concession the UO team makes to give cheaters a fig leaf because they need the money.

    Eve Online. If you are not flying 3+ ships at the same time, are you even playing? But it's you controlling them all. 3+ client windows.

    Think just naming that one mega successful game destroys your point.
    Many many other games are played in this style, I'm not going to list them all.

    In my opinion, you guys need to stop lying, check your facts first. Stop the dramatics.

    Scripting is also allowed in Roblox - the 3rd most popular MMO out there, both my boys, and all kids have grown up playing this, this is how the kids play these days. They go to school, they leave scripts running in Roblox to pick up rewards when they get back from school. It gives them something to look forward to, and lets them focus on schoolwork better, knowing they are not missing out, to pensioners, or jobless people who can sit there all day long playing.


    AI - Is scripting allowed in Roblox - the 3rd most popular MMO with 125m players?
    Yes, scripting is definitely allowed in Roblox and Roblox scripts can do a wide variety of creative things. Almost all games in Roblox use scripts to make them more dynamic and fun. Roblox scripting is done in the Roblox Studio editor and uses a programming language called “Lua”.

    Oh - .lua is the language Enhanced Client uses right...?



  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 772
    edited January 4
    Dishonest again.. it's almost an auto battler.. excel sheet lovers.. even DOFUS a turn base is pumping more blood (u can play on Hardcore-1 life)

    Name one sandbox theme park where u can be a legit one man army.. He's about to drop everquest and runescape xD (TOS legit that is not resident sleeper auto battler nor turn base)


    Cookie said:


    Many many other games are played in this style, I'm not going to list them all.
    Start with 3 MMOrpg, that ain't auto battler resident sleeper nor turn base.. thanks.
    *whisper* gl naming one.


    Edit: your roblox edit is... the studio editor is to MAKE GAMES.. those are used in their used map setting mini games.

     :D 
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,749
    KroDuK said:
    Dishonest again.. it's almost an auto battler.. excel sheet lovers.. even DOFUS a turn base is pumping more blood (u can play on Hardcore-1 life)

    Name one sandbox theme park where u can be a legit one man army.. He's about to drop everquest and runescape xD (TOS legit that is not resident sleeper auto battler nor turn base)


    Cookie said:


    Many many other games are played in this style, I'm not going to list them all.
    Start with 3 MMOrpg, that ain't auto battler resident sleeper nor turn base.. thanks.
    *whisper* gl naming one.
    You're a liar, I'm not discussing anything with you.
    I'm telling you, sit down and listen, cause you are dumb as, and so are all your opinions.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 772
    edited January 4
    Cookie said:
    You're a liar, I'm not discussing anything with you.
    I'm telling you, sit down and listen, cause you are dumb as, and so are all your opinions.
    You are impossible.. I played roblox with my niece..

    the platform hosts user-created games of multiple genres coded in the programming language Lua.


    In other word.. u can make your own mini game and make money on roblox.. the good stuff is free tho.. but yeah.. it's a sandbox.. if u played starcraft.. it's like used map setting (other players create mini game USING THE MAP EDITOR and it's tools).. on roblox it's the studio editor.. you moron.
    It's like if u had an EM program/power to generate stuff like spawn.

    ps: do not use AI to do your research.. this stuff gonna happen, a lot!
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,749
    KroDuK said:
    Cookie said:
    You're a liar, I'm not discussing anything with you.
    I'm telling you, sit down and listen, cause you are dumb as, and so are all your opinions.
    You are impossible.. I played roblox with my niece..

    the platform hosts user-created games of multiple genres coded in the programming language Lua.


    In other word.. u can make your own mini game and make money on roblox.. the good stuff is free tho.. but yeah.. it's a sandbox.. if u played starcraft.. it's like used map setting (other players create mini game USING THE MAP EDITOR).. on roblox it's the studio editor.. you moron.
    My boys have played Roblox from day 1, they are making mini games.
    This is where the kids are, this is how it's being played, 125m players, 3rd ranked game, this is how they play.

    Scripts are the future, adapt.
    User created map/game/event/dungeon in UO?
    Easy enough, look forwards, not backwards, think of the possibilities.
    What do you think some of the freeshards are doing, why are they being so successful?
    They are adding in new content.
    I'm not even asking for new content, though it would be nice, I just want more playability.

  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 772
    edited January 4
    kk, let's not change the subject here.. it was a gotcha moment against Nythrax.. u said u had a very long list can'T name them all.. I want 3 MMOrpg where u can launch multiple clients.. like your gotcha moment..

    Let's speak about the future of UO à la Roblox later.. about creating our own dungeons and maps.. u weirdo.

    PS: on a serious note.. 2 similar sandbox are being work on at moment.. one from original diablo dev and the other is well known around here: Raph Koster. "terra forming" and stuff à la Everquest:next.. EQ;next hit a wall.. too ambitious sony sold daybreak and shut down all it's dev to publish stuff.. so yeah.. :#

    Edit: i'm waiting..
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,749
    edited January 4
    KroDuK said:
    kk, let's not change the subject here.. it was a gotcha moment against Nythrax.. u said u had a very long list can'T name them all.. I want 3 MMOrpg where u can launch multiple clients.. like your gotcha moment..

    Let's speak about the future of UO later.. about creating our own dungeons and maps.. u weirdo.

    PS: on a serious note.. 2 similar sandbox are being work on at moment.. one from original diablo dev and the other is well known around here: Raph Koster. "terra forming" and stuff à la Everquest:next.. EQ;next hit a wall.. too ambitious sony sold daybreak and shut down all it's dev to publish stuff.. so yeah.. :#
    Let's change the subject, because that is all you ever do.
    You lie, you twist everything, you talk bollocks, lets talk about your non stop lies and rubbish instead, far more interesting.

    On a more serious note, I know the names, you go and find out yourself, because you will just twist it and talk shit anyway, so I'll let you do the work, then talk shit about your own work like you always do.

    I listed Eve Online, one of the biggest games in history, in response to this really cutting and negative remark. No other game he said... and you agreed with him.
    Using your logic, that makes you just as stupid as him?
    It also makes you a cheat, and a liar - that is how your brain connects the dots?
    I don't even consider legal multi-clienting legitimate. No other game tolerates it, even random pirate WoW servers operating out of Eastern European basements don't let you do that shit the way UO does. It's an embarrassing concession the UO team makes to give cheaters a fig leaf because they need the money.
    You are starting to look pretty bad now, keep it up, keep digging your own grave.
    As you are a cheat, and a liar - that also makes you a bot user, bot lover?
    Bot, heretic, cheat, heresy, frame skipper.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 772
    Cookie said:
    Let's change the subject, because that is all you ever do.
    You lie, you twist everything, you talk bollocks, lets talk about your non stop lies and rubbish instead, far more interesting.

    On a more serious note, I know the names, you go and find out yourself, because you will just twist it and talk shit anyway, so I'll let you do the work, then talk shit about your own work like you always do.

    I listed Eve Online, one of the biggest games in history, in response to this really cutting and negative remark. No other game he said... and you agreed with him.
    Using your logic, that makes you just as stupid as him?
    It also makes you a cheat, and a liar - that is how your brain connects the dots?
    Ok I'll start the 4th coming.. but does a web browser game with.. ah nvm UO is now a web broswer game.. so it count!

    Ok your turn..
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,749
    edited January 4
    KroDuK said:
     I want 3 MMOrpg where u can launch multiple clients.. 


    MMO's.
    World of Warcraft.
    Final Fantasy XIV
    Runescape
    Eve Online

    Other types of games;
    Magic: the Gathering Arena - Card Trading games.
    Call of Duty:Warzone - FPS games.

    Ipad games;
    Infinite Galaxy.
    Clash of Clans
    etc etc etc. Most of them.

    The point is, it is very common across all gaming, even if it is against TOS, and in many it is not.
    Most games see it as a bonus in the numbers of accounts/players, and a bonus in revenue.
    So again, Nythax's point is just completely incorrect.
    It's an embarrassing concession the UO team makes to give cheaters a fig leaf because they need the money.
    Every single other game out there, also welcomes it! It helps their stats out.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 772

    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
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