Event Bug for Revenants (Tram)

keven2002 · November 22

@Kyronix- There appears to be a bug where mages cannot dispel or even damage revenants that are cast from Undead Gargoyles or LL at all during the town invasion.The result is that they continue to beat on you until they time out (long after the monster is dead) wearing down my suit and interrupting my spells.

The only way to get rid of them is to recall off server and back in which is kind of frustrating.

Grimbeard · November 22

Pally can despell tamer can have pets guard them .this was brought up in testing with no change so I assumed it was intentionally left in

Reinquist · November 22

It appears to me that only the person a rev is summoned on can dispel it.

Pawain · November 22

I mentioned that revenants are on speed now. I think that thread got closed.

Yes only the person who they were cast on can dispel.
They can be damaged but not so much with your fire weapon.

So they were changed for this. I new I wasn't crazy. Wrong word choice maybe.

I'm so sad the Sampires are annoyed by this. They are so used to their easy button.

Lord_Nythrax · November 22

Pawain said:
I'm so sad the Sampires are annoyed by this. They are so used to their easy button.

LMAO, my typical reaction to revenants is to either armor ignore them to death or just completely ignore them and keep fighting until they either go away or my area damage grinds them down. It's not like they can hurt me.

Speaking of game difficulty, are paragons still occasionally targeting your tamer? I know you were complaining about that in another thread. It's so unfair that monsters sometimes actually attack your character. Everyone else wants an easy button, but not you, you're a real hero.

Please devs, give Pawain the invulnerability flag he craves, so he can safely lecture everyone else about how easy they have it.

Pawain · November 22

Lord_Nythrax said:

Pawain said:
I'm so sad the Sampires are annoyed by this. They are so used to their easy button.

LMAO, my typical reaction to revenants is to either armor ignore them to death or just completely ignore them and keep fighting until they either go away or my area damage grinds them down. It's not like they can hurt me.

Speaking of game difficulty, are paragons still occasionally targeting your tamer? I know you were complaining about that in another thread. It's so unfair that monsters sometimes actually attack your character. Everyone else wants an easy button, but not you, you're a real hero.

Please devs, give Pawain the invulnerability flag he craves, so he can safely lecture everyone else about how easy they have it.

I do just fine in events, and I know game mechanics. I use a warrior or archer for these. My Tamer sits at an outskirt and resses Sampires that come to me. Since they are a selfish template that can do nothing to help other players. I also res Sampires in battle with my archer or warrior since they both have healing.

Yes the paras retarget any thing that moves. So Popps wont like being a tamer at this.
1. They would re target him since he does not stand still. while his pet is fighting.
2. When he comes upon a Para with pet in tow, the para sees him first and attacks immediately.
3. Every time someone runs by him in battle, the paragon he was fighting will run off and chase whoever ran by. The tamer can't catch up and someone else gets the credit.
4. A poor tamer is minding their own business fighting something and another player runs by with a para in tow, the para re targets to the tamer does a 60 damage Dragon breath and then a double strike. Poor tamer is dead. At least I come back and res the poor guy.

Dont worry I'm in process of making a guide for this event like I have for the others.
Maybe you can learn something other than Sampire. Since this seems to be your first event with these mechanics.

Remember YOU were the one complaining about tainted Life Leech because you had trouble with that.
All I did was tell you other templates have mechanics in these events that make it difficult for them.
I never complained, even tho I play a tamer at all other times of the year.

I prefer getting more than 6 drops per invasion so my tamers just sit and res. Usually the paragons are more difficult in Dynamic Dungeons, My tamers could get drops by killing the tough paras. There are no tough paras in these invasions.

keven2002 · November 22

Pawain said:

I mentioned that revenants are on speed now. I think that thread got closed.

Yes only the person who they were cast on can dispel.

This is incorrect. I am telling you that I am being cast on directly and I cannot dispel. So it's following me around for 2-4 minutes hitting me while the gargoyle who cast it is long dead. Again I've tried dispel and mass dispel but get the message I cannot do that. The only "fix" for this is to recall/gate to a different town.

Pawain · November 22

keven2002 said:

Pawain said:

I mentioned that revenants are on speed now. I think that thread got closed.

Yes only the person who they were cast on can dispel.

This is incorrect. I am telling you that I am being cast on directly and I cannot dispel. So it's following me around for 2-4 minutes hitting me while the gargoyle who cast it is long dead. The only "fix" for this is to recall/gate to a different town.

I dispel them when they are cast on me. Oddly they don't make my Chiv spell get interrupted. They go up in a black tornado. But I can not dispel the ones cast on other players.

Sorry u can't.

Lord_Nythrax · November 22

Pawain said:
Remember YOU were the one complaining about tainted Life Leech because you had trouble with that.
All I did was tell you other templates have mechanics in these events that make it difficult for them.

Except you're so coddled that your idea of a unique mechanic that makes things difficult for you is just bog standard paragon targeting.

Like oh my god look at that little list of gripes you posted. Another player runs by with a paragon chasing them and it targets a tamer? Or the tamer just walks up on a paragon and it targets them right away instead of their pet? Oh wow you poor precious thing, you walked up to a monster and it targeted you, this game must be out to get you.

Oh and you play your archer too? Dude archery is what I stoned on to my sampire before they got the lag under control. It's what I use when I'm unable or just unwilling to put in any effort at all and I want absolutely zero chance of dying.

Pawain · November 22

Lord_Nythrax said:

Pawain said:
Remember YOU were the one complaining about tainted Life Leech because you had trouble with that.
All I did was tell you other templates have mechanics in these events that make it difficult for them.

Except you're so coddled that your idea of a unique mechanic that makes things difficult for you is just bog standard paragon targeting.

Like oh my god look at that little list of gripes you posted. Another player runs by with a paragon chasing them and it targets a tamer? Or the tamer just walks up on a paragon and it targets them right away instead of their pet? Oh wow you poor precious thing, you walked up to a monster and it targeted you, this game must be out to get you.

Oh and you play your archer too? Dude archery is what I stoned on to my sampire before they got the lag under control. It's what I use when I'm unable or just unwilling to put in any effort at all and I want absolutely zero chance of dying.

This thread is about Revenants, you are telling us that you have not played the event long enough to get Blood oath on you, or you do so little damage it doesn't kill you. I'm glad you are proud of yourself for that.

Lord_Nythrax · November 22

Pawain said:
This thread is about Revenants, you are telling us that you have not played the event long enough to get Blood oath on you, or you do so little damage it doesn't kill you. I'm glad you are proud of yourself for that.

You know resisting spells cuts that damage by up to like 70% right?

So let me get this straight, we have an event where basically everything has necro casting, and you're running a chiv archer with no resist and exploding every time something blood oaths you... and this is your idea of the game being difficult? You feel playing the game in such a way makes you more qualified to comment on matters of relative skill?

Yeah whew, that's rough buddy. That's the most unfair thing that's happened to you since your tamer walked up to a paragon and it dared to target him.

Lord_Nythrax · November 22

Listen Pawain, we may have our differences, but that's no reason you should have to constantly commit suicide with your bad template, so I'm going to teach you how to play the game.

Step One: Take a soulstone and put one of your less necessary skills on it.

Step Two: Buy a resisting spells power scroll if you can afford one and eat it.

Step Three: Run around New Haven for like an hour while getting all the spectral spellbinders to chase after and cast spells at you, until your resisting spells is capped out.

There, I just saved you from ever dying at this event over the next three months. You're welcome. Let me know if you need any more tips.

Pawain · November 22

Lord_Nythrax said:

Listen Pawain, we may have our differences, but that's no reason you should have to constantly commit suicide with your bad template, so I'm going to teach you how to play the game.

Step One: Take a soulstone and put one of your less necessary skills on it.

Step Two: Buy a resisting spells power scroll if you can afford one and eat it.

Step Three: Run around New Haven for like an hour while getting all the spectral spellbinders to chase after and cast spells at you, until your resisting spells is capped out.

There, I just saved you from ever dying at this event over the next three months. You're welcome. Let me know if you need any more tips.

I still have seen no proof you play UO. Your posts sure prove nothing. You mean resist like I have..
Yes, I prefer non easy button templates. Sure I could make a Sampire swordsman. I dont want to.
You bragging constantly about not dying just proves how easy button your Sampire is since he can double leech life.

Image: https://forum.uo.com/uploads/editor/mp/3hmyzsqf6fl0.png

This char can swing a composite bow at full speed and has 1830 luck before statue.

Id like to see you build a suit like that. That can kill stuff. (for a non swordsman)

Since you prob dont understand how Bushido works, you get a luck bonus when Honoring.
Chivalry is there for Consecrate and EoO.

Make ur own thread to make a fool of urself. This is about revenants.

I did play my warrior yesterday, yes he can kill lots faster, IMO they should remove LL from the paras here. Too easy.

Lord_Nythrax · November 22

Pawain said:

Oh my god what even is this?

Look you clearly need more help than I feel like providing, but yeah if you're going to go to an event where almost everything can blood oath and try to drop big numbers, you probably want more than 75 resisting spells. Oh wait sorry, 75.3 resisting spells I mean.

Lord_Nythrax · November 22

Wait am I going crazy? That adds up to 720.9 total skill. Is that... is that not with "show real" checked? Is that AFTER items? Is that how you're actually walking around???

Pawain · November 22

Lord_Nythrax said:

Wait am I going crazy? That adds up to 720.9 total skill. Is that... is that not with "show real" checked? Is that AFTER items? Is that how you're actually walking around???

Do you understand a luck suit? Obviously not. Damn you wont stop making a fool of yourself. Show me your luck suit. or STFU.

keven2002 · November 22

Ok... getting back on track and not having my thread closed because it's still an issue for me....

I am having revenants cast on me and I cannot dispel them (dispel or mass dispel).... I just shut down UO (it's been open since event started) and restarted and there was a small patch it appears. I'm hoping this is a fix for me and the reason I wasn't able to dispel/mass dispel revanants casts on me.

Pawain · 12:00AM

keven2002 said:

Ok... getting back on track and not having my thread closed because it's still an issue for me....

I am having revenants cast on me and I cannot dispel them (dispel or mass dispel).... I just shut down UO (it's been open since event started) and restarted and there was a small patch it appears. I'm hoping this is a fix for me and the reason I wasn't able to dispel/mass dispel revanants casts on me.

After seeing a group of 3 "bots" staying in one place and hearing the WW sound over and over.
I noticed there was a Revenant there that they could not kill, they did start moving again but the revenant followed them and they continued attacking it until it went poof.

Maybe an accidental Bot determent?

Lord_Nythrax · 12:04AM

Pawain said:
Do you understand a luck suit? Obviously not. Damn you wont stop making a fool of yourself. Show me your luck suit. or STFU.

That template is nonsense no matter what gear you're wearing and you've outed yourself as a complete charlatan. I'm saving a copy of that image so I can post it next time you act like you know what you're talking about. Please go google some ABC archer builds. I guarantee none of them will recommend you walk around at 107 in your primary weapon skill, for starters.

Oreogl · 12:08AM

I feel like I’m more invested in Pawains build now than I am the revenant issue.

why are you rolling with 75.3 resists? @Pawain

Pawain · 12:08AM

Lord_Nythrax said:

Pawain said:
Do you understand a luck suit? Obviously not. Damn you wont stop making a fool of yourself. Show me your luck suit. or STFU.

That template is nonsense no matter what gear you're wearing and you've outed yourself as a complete charlatan. I'm saving a copy of that image so I can post it next time you act like you know what you're talking about. Please go google some ABC archer builds. I guarantee none of them will recommend you walk around at 107 in your primary weapon skill, for starters.

When you do, include the 1830 luck so they can show me something better. You realize we are killing zombies in this event. He had no trouble with Para Rune Beetles.

Its called an event specific template. Also I move skills around onto other templates I do not want to have to regain Tactics and Bushido if I drop those down for more archery, when he kills stuff now. You don't do much thinking do you? Go to TC and show me the damage increase from 107 to 120 archery. Not worth the small damage to have to regain other skills I move around. Those skill numbers exactly fit the other guy I use them on.

I could remove his 190 Luck helmet and put his Hunters headress back on and he have 120 archery.

I see why you play a swords Sampire.

Still haven't seen your luck suit mr. smarty pants.

Pawain · 12:24AM

Oreogl said:

I feel like I’m more invested in Pawains build now than I am the revenant issue.

why are you rolling with 75.3 resists? @ Pawain

I move skills around on that account. During the last event I noticed I could use some resist so I gained what I could. The values of the other skills fit a different toons template, I don't want to lower numbers when they are returned.

Like I am telling the idiot. He has an 1830 luck suit on, there is no room for added skill Jewelry.

You do realize when I put Hunters headress on him he has 120 archery, but would lose 190 Luck.
Also could use the archery quiver but lose the 125 luck.

If one of you wants to donate a 150 luck bracelet that happens to have + 15 or 20 archery Ill take it.
It would also need DI and HCI. Hard to get those on luck armor...

Lord_Nythrax · 12:28AM

Pawain said:
When you do, include the 1830 luck so they can show me something better. You realize we are killing zombies in this event. He had no trouble with Para Rune Beetles.

Its called an event specific template.

Still haven't seen your luck suit mr. smarty pants.

Nobody cares how much luck you have on your suit when your template looks like something a little kid made up. Like how did you even arrive at it? Did you just ask someone what skills an archer should have, turn them all up, and let them stop wherever at random?

For real, get your archery to 120, maybe drop bushido to like 80, get everything else to 100, and then take the extra 20 points and put them in either tactics or maybe resisting spells if you really don't want to be hurt by blood oath.

Wait a minute... you're at 120.9 with items, but they don't make items with 0.9 skill on them. The smallest increment you typically find on an item is 5 points. You're not even at 720 natural skill, this template isn't even complete, yet you have your archery locked at 107?

Literally WTF are you even doing? You run around this forum acting like you're some kind of authority on something and this is the kind of nonsense template you run? Seriously get your shit in order and maybe you'll start to get over your seething inferiority complex when it comes to sampires.

Pawain · 12:35AM

You do realize Luck gets more drops in these events, right?

Stop being stupid, you passed ignorant already.

Grimbeard · 12:40AM

Pawain said:

You do realize Luck gets more drops in these events, right?

Stop being stupid, you passed ignorant already.

My fishers have high luck suits do all content and don't have skills like that..

Pawain · 12:54AM

Grimbeard said:

Pawain said:

You do realize Luck gets more drops in these events, right?

Stop being stupid, you passed ignorant already.

My fishers have high luck suits do all content and don't have skills like that..

I have seen what you use. You are not one to talk.

He was built with a hunters headress. He can 1 or 2 shot every non para in this event, Takes 3 for Boneweaver and the Gargs.

Go to TC and compare damage at 107 and 120 archery. When he puts his real clothes on he has 120 Archery. So why would I increase his archery now, when he kills everything in this event and have to mess around and decrease it when he puts his hunters headress on?

That would be wasted time to have to increase and decrease skills for temporary content.

He does 60 - 75 damage right now on the stat sheet. 60 SSI.

Oh my. when I put on Hunters Headress and get 120 archery he does 65 - 75 damage still.

Explain to me what I am not getting from the 107 archery? vs 120.

Seems a lot of you could go to TC and see how the skills affect damage. Damage is what kills.

Yall owe me a lot of drops I am missing for schooling yall in the basics.

If we were talking about any other weapon skill, we would involve the masteries. Archery has a crap mastery compared to the rest, so 120 is important for all the other weapon skills.

Lord_Nythrax · 12:55AM

Pawain said:
I move skills around on that account. During the last event I noticed I could use some resist so I gained what I could. The values of the other skills fit a different toons template, I don't want to lower numbers when they are returned.

Wait, wait, wait, you're telling us you have an entire account full of characters whose skills all stop at these arbitrary decimal values? And you shuffle these skills around, and in order to make them fit, you just come in below 720 total? You're not really helping your case here, dog.

Pro tip, decide which skills are worth having at 120, which are worth having at 100, and get them to those nice round numbers so you can swap them around freely without wasting any space. Also, maybe don't rely on crappy 20 year old Doom artifacts to max your primary weapon skill if you plan on being able to wear a luck suit.

KroDuK · 1:03AM

@keven2002 It clearly was a design choice to not let you mass dispell the revenant.. This event is very unfriendly for mages.. wich is ok I guess.

I still can't get pass the irony of Paiwan saying to nythrax stop ridiculing yourself but posted a screen of this W T F archer build.. you can find what ever excuses you want but god damn..

I'll do what nythrax couldn't provide.. as a favor to you.

Anatomy need to be a multiple of 6 cuz of healing (here do 108 or 114 ana)

75 resist is a ridicule choice.. if i can't go MINIMUM 110 resist.. I prefer not using it at all.. kinda useless.. specially on a GM+ chiv archer build that can evade mono target spells.

I won't question you choice of doing 114.4 bushido on an archer.. even if..

And for the love of god.. for the duration of this multiple months event.. do something about 107 archery.. if your aiming for minimal effort just go in luna bank withdraw 300 gold.. put an arrow down on anatomy.. arrow up on bowcraft.. give 80 gold to the NPC by the bank (102 anatomy)
lock anatomy,, after u have to choose.. we need 5 more point.. my instinct would be to drop tactics (easy to retrain) to 109 and look it down (so u can go play the event with archery arrow up.. soon enough your going to be 120 archery for the remaining of the event)

Once the event is done it's gonna take no time to get back those 13 points of ana and tactics.

IMO bushido needs to go for ninjitsu.. even low ninjitsu pair real good with chiv (both can profite from that 4/6) like replace the useless 75 resist + bushido for gm hiding + the rest in ninjitsu.. your build going to be way more fun and effective.

PS: your narrative of bushido got 1k more luck!! I mean we both know u must be honoring only the big juicy paragon.. if u don't pretty sure your losing artefact wasting time to honor every single trash mobs your killing instead of just steam rolling them.

But yeah personally i'd go for ninjitsu/hiding.. u could play almost safely on felluca with such build and profite from 1k more luck. (and with all the heresic items with ninjitsu + stealth.. u could even find enough point to get your 85 stealth requirement and be a real menace with shadow jump)

This is my 2 cents for such a trash build.. what ever excuses u wanna give.. multiple of 6 ana plus 107 archery and 75 resist is not a thing.. plus the very questionable decision of samurai instead of a sexy ninja.. idk man.. maybe just:

Pawain said:
Make ur own thread to make a fool of urself.

Edit: with gm hiding, ninja and 85 stealth (last two u can find tons of items to help you) on a CHIV PvE luck archer.. u could even get rid of the healing on top of bushido and that 75 resist.

Grimbeard · 1:18AM

Image: https://forum.uo.com/uploads/editor/fm/jw1b7rfshq0a.png

this is what your luck suit and a wacky template should look like and boy is new backpack sweet

Pawain · 1:26AM

Like I said, I do the exact same damage with 107 archery and 120.

That archer has 720 real skill whether you can see it or not.

When the archer has his normal suit and skills he is a 120 Archer.

And No I do not use 120 melee scrolls on toons. My 200 pets get them not the toons I use once in a while.

@KroDuK another person who does not know what is involved in making a luck suit.

All of you, show what your luck suit has on it and how much luck you have. Crickets...

Pawain · 1:30AM

Only my tamers have 120 in all the skills they need. I only play other toons because I am forced to to get drops in these events with other templates.

IMO other than tamers are junk toons.

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