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GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,265
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I have estimated 18k an hour I will lose please x this by 40 hours a week for duration of event add in current shard market value of undying flesh and deposit in my bank please @Kyronix ;
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  • VioletViolet Posts: 408
    And to think, not spending that time looting gold, just one additional drop from that time saved will nullify any of that lost gold for the week.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,265
    I've always gotten more than I needed and all that gold I don't like Atlantic issues punishing me
  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 431
    Grimbeard said:
    I've always gotten more than I needed and all that gold I don't like Atlantic issues punishing me
    720k a week?

    I got you.  How many weeks is this, let’s pay the tab out now so we don’t have to keep seeing this.

  • VioletViolet Posts: 408
    But you can simply sell a single drop and get more value than spending all the time looting gold.  When people intentionally try to make issues or problems where there really are none, they then lose credibility in other arguments they make. Especially when they immediately dismiss solutions.  

    Pick your battles, this doesn’t have to be an unending war against the developers and enjoying the game.  
  • Arnold7Arnold7 Posts: 1,407
    Was alright when I could loot corpses that had over 1000 gold.  Could pay for my death robes.  Now mostly just a piece of crap.  Not enough players on this morning to take on the boss and only the third day.
  • LilyGraceLilyGrace Posts: 946
    Well, it must be nice to play UO in ways that have you not needing or wanting more gold by looting the mobs you kill. Ya know, like we’ve always been able to do for the last 20+ years? This fix for Atlantic is a punishment and big disappointment for some players. Period. But feel free to take a haughty attitude towards others as long as you’ve enough gold for this hot”fix” not to bother you. 
  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 431
    Violet said:
    But you can simply sell a single drop and get more value than spending all the time looting gold.  When people intentionally try to make issues or problems where there really are none, they then lose credibility in other arguments they make. Especially when they immediately dismiss solutions.  

    Pick your battles, this doesn’t have to be an unending war against the developers and enjoying the game.  
    This pretty much sums it up.

    i can understand some entertainment value and some of the items are hard to get but basing it on the loss of gold from these vs just selling 1 drop?  Crazy. 

     If it takes me 10 mins to get the drops for these to offset the costs, time/money well spent. 
  • LilyGraceLilyGrace Posts: 946
    And if you’ve limited time to devote and you want to keep the drops you get and turn them in? 

    This only acceptable to those of you who are getting what you want at the expense of those who aren’t. I give up. Let’s normalize not being able to loot our kills so Atlantic doesn’t lag. Great idea. 
  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 431
    LilyGrace said:
    Well, it must be nice to play UO in ways that have you not needing or wanting more gold by looting the mobs you kill. Ya know, like we’ve always been able to do for the last 20+ years? This fix for Atlantic is a punishment and big disappointment for some players. Period. But feel free to take a haughty attitude towards others as long as you’ve enough gold for this hot”fix” not to bother you. 
    How much are you out?  I’ll pay that too.
  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 431
    LilyGrace said:
    And if you’ve limited time to devote and you want to keep the drops you get and turn them in? 

    This only acceptable to those of you who are getting what you want at the expense of those who aren’t. I give up. Let’s normalize not being able to loot our kills so Atlantic doesn’t lag. Great idea. 
    I’m a casual player, but  I’m willing to help out.

    what shard do you play on?


  • LilyGraceLilyGrace Posts: 946
    Get bent
  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 431
    LilyGrace said:
    Get bent
    Well, that’s rude.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,265
    The typical Atlantic attitude says it all the developers ignored feedback and the beat goes on...
  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 431
    Grimbeard said:
    The typical Atlantic attitude says it all the developers ignored feedback and the beat goes on...
    I don’t play ATL either and had zero issues with lag.
  • VioletViolet Posts: 408
    edited November 21
    LilyGrace said:
    Well, it must be nice to play UO in ways that have you not needing or wanting more gold by looting the mobs you kill. Ya know, like we’ve always been able to do for the last 20+ years? This fix for Atlantic is a punishment and big disappointment for some players. Period. But feel free to take a haughty attitude towards others as long as you’ve enough gold for this hot”fix” not to bother you. 
    I have 500k on Violet.  I’m far from having a lot of gold.  I don’t play the game to make gold, I play the game to enjoy the game and use my knowledge to teach others about the game.  I also understand looting gold during treasure events has an opportunity cost.  And it’s much more efficient to kill mobs and get artifacts than to spend that time looting gold. You get more drops and if you need gold you can sell a drop or two and then you will have gold.

    I understand not everyone wants to be efficient, however The Devs made these changes due to very real server stability issues.  Those issues may not affect you now, but that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t in the nearly three months this event will be live.  Sometimes we need to look outside ourselves and think of how the changes serve the greater good, a game that is more playable for all on every server.

    Also, like OreoGL, I also don’t play Atlantic.
  • AmeliaAmelia Posts: 7
    This event is about getting drops not items from corpses. It is as simple as that. Go farm gold in other places. 
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,265
    Violet said:
    LilyGrace said:
    Well, it must be nice to play UO in ways that have you not needing or wanting more gold by looting the mobs you kill. Ya know, like we’ve always been able to do for the last 20+ years? This fix for Atlantic is a punishment and big disappointment for some players. Period. But feel free to take a haughty attitude towards others as long as you’ve enough gold for this hot”fix” not to bother you. 
    I have 500k on Violet.  I’m far from having a lot of gold.  I don’t play the game to make gold, I play the game to enjoy the game and use my knowledge to teach others about the game.  I also understand looting gold during treasure events has an opportunity cost.  And it’s much more efficient to kill mobs and get artifacts than to spend that time looting gold. You get more drops and if you need gold you can sell a drop or two and then you will have gold.

    I understand not everyone wants to be efficient, however The Devs made these changes due to very real server stability issues.  Those issues may not affect you now, but that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t in the nearly three months this event will be live.  Sometimes we need to look outside ourselves and think of how the changes serve the greater good, a game that is more playable for all on every server.
    A.for one server stability issue 
    B. Maybe some people's play style involved looting 
  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,993
    edited November 21
    Easy fix.  The gold we would have gotten from a Mob goes into our bank.  I can't believe we are still having to loot what we earned after 27 years.  I had hoped this would be taken care of in NL.

    Having to look at the other items is fine and should be our choice to do so or not, but we should get our gold automatically.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,265
    What's gonna happen when that lich dry loots some one and they lose multiple drops 
  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,993
    The anti pifer statue has too long of a cooldown to use again. 
    I did that, Killed by one looter, and a lich res killed and looted some more.   That's the life of a UO player tho.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 398
    Grimbeard said:
    I have estimated 18k an hour I will lose please x this by 40 hours a week for duration of event add in current shard market value of undying flesh and deposit in my bank please @ Kyronix 

    Good god you dead-sharders live in poverty. Yeah this comes out to like eight or nine mil or something, add me to the list of people who'll pay that much just to not see this dumb thread.
  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 431
    Grimbeard said:
    What's gonna happen when that lich dry loots some one and they lose multiple drops 
    Now see, this is a reasonable issue to address.

    you can fix that for a little while with the anti loot totem. 
  • VioletViolet Posts: 408
    edited November 21
    @Grimbeard it was more than just Atlantic, it was multiple servers.  

    And I’m sure the devs have already thought about the rummaging 
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,265
    Violet said:
    @ Grimbeard it was more than just Atlantic, it was multiple servers.  

    And I’m sure the devs have already thought about the rummaging 
    Then apply it to said servers not Origin and Baja that had zero issues..
  • Victim_Of_SiegeVictim_Of_Siege Posts: 2,098
    I can loan ya Tree fiddy if'n it'll help.

    A Goblin, a Gargoyle, and a Drow walk into a bar . . .

    Never be afraid to challenge the status quo

  • LilyGraceLilyGrace Posts: 946
    edited November 21
    Well now you’re just being sanctimonious, @Violet. When I want you to play teacher with me I’ll polish an apple for you. You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth, apparently without knowing it. You’re talking about sacrifice for the good of the whole. It’s not the whole that’s having the trouble. It’s Atlantic. And so we on all the rest of the shards are forced to make a sacrifice for the one shard. 

    And I have to laugh at you coming on like you don’t have plenty of wealth in UO. I also find it amusing that you want to come off as being some great helper, out of the goodness of your heart. It’s an ego thing and always has been. And you have a big selfish streak.  I could tell stories to back this up but I won’t bother. I will say, I’ve known you to get really nasty and insulting with people on NL who politely don’t agree with you on a topic. 

    As was already mentioned somewhere along the line in these threads. There were bound to be people who’d say it’s silly to take a moment to loot because it’s not optimal. That’s fine, so don’t loot. But you coming off like you’re the one who needs to clue people in on what’s the best way to enjoy a ToT event, or anything else in UO for that matter, is BS. If people want to loot their kills they should be allowed to. That’s the way the game has always worked and it’s how it should continue to work. 

    I don’t know why you play, or what you like or don’t like about how things work in UO. But I know I wouldn’t come along and tell you that a fundamental part of how UO has always worked, that you’ve  always enjoyed, has to go away because another shard is having difficulty. And I wouldn’t tell you that your insistence that you play within a range of what you consider optimal is silly and lacks soul. But you expecting that for yourself is one thing. Trying to make others feel less than because that’s not how they choose to play is another. 

    Why is wanting to loot gold off kills any more or less silly than those wanting to make sure they run around as fast as humanly possible to get as many drops as fast as they can?

    So to you and Nythrax and whoever that clown is saying he’ll pay people the gold they feel they’re missing out on, while pretending he’s not being insulting…

    It isn’t just about the gold. And it isn’t just about the drops. It’s about the feel of the game while you’re playing it. It’s about enjoying UO the way you like to play your character. This sacrifice we all have to make for Atlantic has me enjoying the game less. And there’s nothing wrong with voicing that. 


  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 431
    Victim_Of_Siege said:
    I can loan ya Tree fiddy if'n it'll help.

    Bold move.

    i tried that before, results were mixed.


  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,265
    I'll take 7 gp from vic to clam up delivery in his dirty loincloth behind minoc bank
  • MerlinMerlin Posts: 230
  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 431
    LilyGrace said:
    Well now you’re just being sanctimonious, @ Violet. When I want you to play teacher with me I’ll polish an apple for you. You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth, apparently without knowing it. You’re talking about sacrifice for the good of the whole. It’s not the whole that’s having the trouble. It’s Atlantic. And so we on all the rest of the shards are forced to make a sacrifice for the one shard. 

    And I have to laugh at you coming on like you don’t have plenty of wealth in UO. I also find it amusing that you want to come off as being some great helper, out of the goodness of your heart. It’s an ego thing and always has been. And you have a big selfish streak.  I could tell stories to back this up but I won’t bother. I will say, I’ve known you to get really nasty and insulting with people on NL who politely don’t agree with you on a topic. 

    As was already mentioned somewhere along the line in these threads. There were bound to be people who’d say it’s silly to take a moment to loot because it’s not optimal. That’s fine, so don’t loot. But you coming off like you’re the one who needs to clue people in on what’s the best way to enjoy a ToT event, or anything else in UO for that matter, is BS. If people want to loot their kills they should be allowed to. That’s the way the game has always worked and it’s how it should continue to work. 

    I don’t know why you play, or what you like or don’t like about how things work in UO. But I know I wouldn’t come along and tell you that a fundamental part of how UO has always worked, that you’ve  always enjoyed, has to go away because another shard is having difficulty. And I wouldn’t tell you that your insistence that you play within a range of what you consider optimal is silly and lacks soul. But you expecting that for yourself is one thing. Trying to make others feel less than because that’s not how they choose to play is another. 

    Why is wanting to loot gold off kills any more or less silly than those wanting to make sure they run around as fast as humanly possible to get as many drops as fast as they can?

    So to you and Nythrax and whoever that clown is saying he’ll pay people the gold they feel they’re missing out on, while pretending he’s not being insulting…

    It isn’t just about the gold. And it isn’t just about the drops. It’s about the feel of the game while you’re playing it. It’s about enjoying UO the way you like to play your character. This sacrifice we all have to make for Atlantic has me enjoying the game less. And there’s nothing wrong with voicing that. 


    *Clutches pearls*

    Your displeasure is noted.
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